Pre Game/Post Season perspective....

#26
#26
Good post jake. Dixies was nice, quite a bit of orange, and nice to see Pearl show up for a pregame pep.

I agree with the Carolina fans, while we weren't there for the entire game of that one, they are obnoxious, whine after every call against them even if it is valid and clear to the point that they fouled.

And those who are not a Tenn fan may think Rocky Top gets annoying, the same C A R D S chant got old, one same chant over and over and over.....

It was fun, but disappointing. Make and advance at their lead, get a stop defensively but then have a crappy turnover.
 
#27
#27
Jake, excellent post. great insight about Ramar. you cant fault the kid's effort.
 
#28
#28
rexvol said:
Jake, excellent post. great insight about Ramar. you cant fault the kid's effort.
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no you can't. i didn't think he played particularly well, and there were times where i just wished he would have passed it more.........all that said, there was a point in the 2nd half, where honestly, i thought he was the only one on the floor that wanted the ball, and it showed. he got to the line, drove the lane, beat the press.....if he could ever get himself under a little bit of control, and be a shooter as well as a slasher, the sky's the limit.

i'll refer to the UNC game.....Ty Lawson in the 2nd half, had a stretch where he reeled of 10 straight points for the heels. he was hitting mid range jump shots, a three, and couple of drives for lay ups. he was scoring threat. another cog to account for int he UNC offensive machine.

at some pont, our PG is going to have to be a scoring threat as well. that will help set up the rest of the offense in half court sets, which again, we didn't look particularly great in last night. couple that with our offensive rebounding (i don't know the stats, but i have to think our we got killed on the off. rebounds), we didn't allow ourselves many opps at the off end. 1 shot, L'ville rebound, L'ville bucket. and that's how it went from a 1 pt game to a 10 pt game in like 2 minutes.

my voice is shot. i can barely talk today, but as i was sitting there watching this game, i honestly didn't get t total po'd. this game never had the feel of a game that we could make a run like we're used to.

and as bad as i think we played, you also have to credit L'ville. they were the team that decided to play defense and rebound, and for them, that turned in to a lot of easy buckets. L'ville deserves a lot of credit.

that said, i think UNC will all together be a different animal for them to handle.
 
#29
#29
some very questionable coaching moves. Steven Pearl getting the mins he did was shocking. Obviously, the PG change did not work. Pearl got out-coached and we got exposed.
 
#30
#30
kkep48 said:
some very questionable coaching moves. Steven Pearl getting the mins he did was shocking. Obviously, the PG change did not work. Pearl got out-coached and we got exposed.
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i can see why anyone would say that about CBP being out coached. and we were exposed.

but, i prefer to look at this way.....we had a deficiency at a position that needed to be addressed, and he made a change that he thought would improve it. Plus it was a move this late that gives the rest of the teams we play something different to plan for.

i for one thought it took great big cajones to do what he did. it's the equivalent of CPF makinga change at the QB spot before a bowl game or something.

depends on how you feel about change, but what it really did is show everyone we're still a work in progress. we need a pg. Ramar or JP may still be that guy. but both need work.

and Pearl is not the first or last coach Rick P. out coaches. that's not a sin.:thumbsup:
 
#31
#31
Making that move def. requires some cajonas. However, making it and it backfiring like it did sets yourself up for criticism, and that's what's gonna come his way. Bruce can handle it though and by next year, the PG situation will be fixed, one way or another. Ramar is the PG for this team, he just has to improve over the off-season.

And you're right, won't be the last time Pearl is out-coached, but I didn't think it would get 19-pts bad.
 
#32
#32
Ramar needs to be more in control and patient, he relies on his slashing instead of a jumpshot, slashing is good if you can draw fouls and shoot free throws, but when you miss a good majority of the time and get no foul called, or when you do get a foul called and miss free throws thats just hurting the team. We need to have more poise and control next year if we want to go anywhere.
 
#33
#33
kkep,
me neither, but you can credit that 19 pts to alot of poor play. how many games this year have we had where EVERYONE had a bad game? I mean no one stepped up and knocked down shots or got the rebounds, etc.........when they had to.
 
#34
#34
jakez4ut said:
kkep,
me neither, but you can credit that 19 pts to alot of poor play. how many games this year have we had where EVERYONE had a bad game? I mean no one stepped up and knocked down shots or got the rebounds, etc.........when they had to.
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A LOT of poor play. Pitino used that pressure defense to perfection last night. You're right, nobody stepped up.

I could envisision Tennessee losing to end the season, but not losing by 19 and looking like a team that belonged in the NIT.
 
#35
#35
kkep48 said:
A LOT of poor play. Pitino used that pressure defense to perfection last night. You're right, nobody stepped up.

I could envisision Tennessee losing to end the season, but not losing by 19 and looking like a team that belonged in the NIT.
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agreed, and agreed. in most of my brackets, i had us losing to L'ville anyway, so it wasn't like i was surprised. but never saw a 19 pt blow out coming.
 
#36
#36
Louisville used a pressure defense like us but stayed control and poised by not running around like a And1 team.
 
#37
#37
they played defense like KY played def. under Pitino.

full court press. with the emphasis on full court. Pearl had it right when he described the two versions of the press both teams run......he said their's is effective and ours is annoying.
 
#38
#38
The one thing that really upsets me from last night is our team's overall lack of effort at times. There was a couple times when Louisville just drove to the basket and we never stepped in to stop the ball. Louisville had several full-court passes when our guys didn't get back on defense that led to easy layups. When we were losing, Louisville was faster to loose balls. It just seemed to me that our effort wasn't nearly as intense as Louisville's was, which is really disappointing.
 
#39
#39
kkep48 said:
The one thing that really upsets me from last night is our team's overall lack of effort at times. There was a couple times when Louisville just drove to the basket and we never stepped in to stop the ball. Louisville had several full-court passes when our guys didn't get back on defense that led to easy layups. When we were losing, Louisville was faster to loose balls. It just seemed to me that our effort wasn't nearly as intense as Louisville's was, which is really disappointing.
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Well it seems after everyone started getting into foul trouble especially everyone just started giving up, just look at the bench in the second half.
 
#40
#40
kkep48 said:
The one thing that really upsets me from last night is our team's overall lack of effort at times. There was a couple times when Louisville just drove to the basket and we never stepped in to stop the ball. Louisville had several full-court passes when our guys didn't get back on defense that led to easy layups. When we were losing, Louisville was faster to loose balls. It just seemed to me that our effort wasn't nearly as intense as Louisville's was, which is really disappointing.
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i think the effort was there. we just didn't see the beneift of it that we're used to. we go after a loose ball, and we tip it out of bounds.......stuff like that...but Lofton, Jajuan, Wayne, JP.......all hit the deck last night trying to scrounge for the ball.

as to the transition points, well, that's somethign we've done all year long. we give up easy baskets when our press gets beat. they beat it.

now, there were two for sure defensive lapses that resulted in way too easy dunks for htem. one where Chism was chasing a guy from behind and the L'ville guy was following him with the ball and just dunked it w/out Chism ever knowing it happened right behind him. and L'ville did a decent job of clearing out the lane, or finding the open guy on the permiter, because 4 guys would collapse on the inside guy.....

at this point, i think we can all just agree, it was one of the worst games we've played all year. and it was the wrong time of the year for it.

We still had a great season overall......it just sucked to see it end the way it did. i think that's where we all are right now.
 
#41
#41
i get the feeling from some of the other threads that there are some folks out there that are being pretty hard on the team/coach/individual players.

so, i'll simply bump this to the top, and suggest we read page 1 again. the loss sucked. the season didn't.
:peace2:
 
#42
#42
what kills me the most about our performance in the tourney as a whole is the C-Lo completely disappeared. our senior leader never showed up.
 
#43
#43
rexvol said:
what kills me the most about our performance in the tourney as a whole is the C-Lo completely disappeared. our senior leader never showed up.
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teams made up their mind that he wasn't going to beat them. and i think they found out it wasn't exactly all that difficult to defend him. take your chances with everyone else.

more times than not, that hasn't worked out for hte other team. last night, it did.

doesn't diminish his college career in my mind.
 
#44
#44
rexvol said:
what kills me the most about our performance in the tourney as a whole is the C-Lo completely disappeared. our senior leader never showed up.
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I wouldn't be too hard on Lofton... He had a guy in his pocket the whole game, and when he did break free, he had an athletically long 6'9" Earl Clark jumping out at him... Pitino always devises a plan to take away a player given time and with 4 days, he basically took Lofton out of the game... The fact that Lofton drilled some contested 3's late is a tribute to how good a shooter he is...
 
#45
#45
BeigeHammer said:
I wouldn't be too hard on Lofton... He had a guy in his pocket the whole game, and when he did break free, he had an athletically long 6'9" Earl Clark jumping out at him... Pitino always devises a plan to take away a player given time and with 4 days, he basically took Lofton out of the game... The fact that Lofton drilled some contested 3's late is a tribute to how good a shooter he is...
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Lofton will be held in a high regard when discussing ut basketball in the future. this one game, which he did have an off night, contested or not, will not re define his career. he's been a special player here, and we were glad, and lucky, to have him.
 
#46
#46
BeigeHammer said:
I wouldn't be too hard on Lofton... He had a guy in his pocket the whole game, and when he did break free, he had an athletically long 6'9" Earl Clark jumping out at him... Pitino always devises a plan to take away a player given time and with 4 days, he basically took Lofton out of the game... The fact that Lofton drilled some contested 3's late is a tribute to how good a shooter he is...
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what about American and Butler? who on those teams was athletically superior to Lofton? Dont get me wrong, he's a big reason that we're on the basketball map and i love him, but he did not produce in the tourney, period.
 
#47
#47
rexvol said:
what about American and Butler? who on those teams was athletically superior to Lofton? Dont get me wrong, he's a big reason that we're on the basketball map and i love him, but he did not produce in the tourney, period.
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as i watched Stephen Curry last night, i think about what might have been.......Lofton could have had thta kind of impact.....maybe not as many points, but someting for the rest of the team to center around, definitely.

oh well.......
 
#48
#48
dan4vols said:
Our guys I think have to go into this game with the mindset the Louisville team is here to steal something from them. They have to IMO to play this game starving and furious, setting a tone of dominance. I also think if Chism does'nt show a huge presence tonight it'll be tough to win.
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What I meant to say was this is exactly how it wont be, and we'll lose huge. The swami sees all knows all:whistling:
 
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