Power Five Injury Reports

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If the Power 5 football schools ever form their own organization, I would like to see mandatory injury reports.
To avoid violating Hippa laws, there would be no specifics mentioned. Only injury categories, such as:

Minor injury: out several days
Significant injury: out several weeks
Major injury: out indefinitely

I think this gives us fans (and yes, I know, gamblers) some information while not violating the players privacy and might help some with the "leaking" of a players status by media, boosters, etc. that can often be false information.

Is this a good idea or am I way off base?
 
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Vfl2407 said:
If the Power 5 football schools ever form their own organization, I would like to see mandatory injury reports.
To avoid violating Hippa laws, there would be no specifics mentioned. Only injury categories, such as:

Minor injury: out several days
Significant injury: out several weeks
Major injury: out indefinitely

I think this gives us fans (and yes, I know, gamblers) some information while not violating the players privacy and might help some with the "leaking" of a players status by media, boosters, etc. that can often be false information.

Is this a good idea or am I way off base?
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I don't think you're way off base. One issue I see is if a player is to considered to have a "major" injury and it's not but "causes" that player to not get drafted or a look from the NFL.

A current NFL player has already accepted the terms of the injury reports so it's part of the deal. College players are looking to get to the NFL...that's where I could see an issue.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I don't think you're way off base. One issue I see is if a player is to considered to have a "major" injury and it's not but "causes" that player to not get drafted or a look from the NFL.

A current NFL player has already accepted the terms of the injury reports so it's part of the deal. College players are looking to get to the NFL...that's where I could see an issue.
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I don't think this would be much of a problem honestly. Teams go over the players with a fine tooth comb at combines, pro days, and interviews. Any misreported injury would be discovered and treated as such I would think.
 
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And can't you get around hippa laws if the person signs saying it's ok to release his information to the public?
 
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Boca Vol said:
I don't think you're way off base. One issue I see is if a player is to considered to have a "major" injury and it's not but "causes" that player to not get drafted or a look from the NFL.

A current NFL player has already accepted the terms of the injury reports so it's part of the deal. College players are looking to get to the NFL...that's where I could see an issue.
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Injury reports are for Vegas
 
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Biopsyman said:
Injury reports are for Vegas
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I know that gambling is a big part of it.
But, I think many non gambling fans that follow their team closely do appreciate getting injury reports.
I don't gamble but I very much want to know which Vols won't play in games.
 
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A good idea in theory but in practice, I'm not so sure.

Most coaches would follow the Patriots approach and just list every player as questionable. I think Brady was listed questionable every game last year. They will just use it for gamesmanship purposes.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
A good idea in theory but in practice, I'm not so sure.

Most coaches would follow the Patriots approach and just list every player as questionable. I think Brady was listed questionable every game last year. They will just use it for gamesmanship purposes.
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To avoid that, each Conference should monitor their teams.
There would need to be penalties like loss of scholarships or money for schools giving false information.
Say that reports have to be given by Thursday whether or not a certain player can play on Saturday.
If a player is listed as "out" on Thursday that plays on Saturday, penalties result possibly including even a forfeit of that game?
 
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Bama would have had to forfeit half their games when the Bear was there with those rules. He often said players would not play and then they always did. Namath against TN was a good example.
 
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Bad idea. Teams would just lie on the reports and say a player would be out several weeks then presto, he's miraculously healed and ready to play that week.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
To avoid that, each Conference should monitor their teams.
There would need to be penalties like loss of scholarships or money for schools giving false information.
Say that reports have to be given by Thursday whether or not a certain player can play on Saturday.
If a player is listed as "out" on Thursday that plays on Saturday, penalties result possibly including even a forfeit of that game?
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So you trust the SEC office in Birmingham to properly monitor Alabama? All teams would do is say everyone ranging from a paper cut to a broken leg is questionable.

In the NBA, you have the issue of tanking/resting. If you put penalties in place to combat that, you would see a lot of pulled groins, etc. If Wilt Chamberlain never missed a game due to a pulled groin, then no-one should make that excuse.

In the NFL, the practice reports are much better than the injury reports (from a gambling/fantasy football perspective).
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
...Most coaches would follow the Patriots approach and just list every player as questionable...
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Or, everyone was available.:crazy:

Vfl2407 said:
To avoid that, each Conference should monitor their teams.
There would need to be penalties like loss of scholarships or money for schools giving false information.
Say that reports have to be given by Thursday whether or not a certain player can play on Saturday.
If a player is listed as "out" on Thursday that plays on Saturday, penalties result possibly including even a forfeit of that game?
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See above for solution. Oops, twisted an ankle getting on the plane, slipped in the shower, etc. Can't penalize for that.
 
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volboy81 said:
And can't you get around hippa laws if the person signs saying it's ok to release his information to the public?
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Players will not willingly sign something like that and if you force players to sign that document in order to receive their athletic scholarships, you'll have a lawsuit on your hands.
 
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HIPAA is for healthcare institutions, not university athletic departments. The players are patients of a doctor, not the school. If a university spokesperson says "So and so tore their ACL" that does not violate HIPAA.



Vfl2407 said:
If the Power 5 football schools ever form their own organization, I would like to see mandatory injury reports.
To avoid violating Hippa laws, there would be no specifics mentioned. Only injury categories, such as:

Minor injury: out several days
Significant injury: out several weeks
Major injury: out indefinitely

I think this gives us fans (and yes, I know, gamblers) some information while not violating the players privacy and might help some with the "leaking" of a players status by media, boosters, etc. that can often be false information.

Is this a good idea or am I way off base?
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volfan607 said:
HIPAA is for healthcare institutions, not university athletic departments. The players are patients of a doctor, not the school. If a university spokesperson says "So and so tore their ACL" that does not violate HIPAA.
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True but it would have to be with the players consent I believe.
 
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Dear Florida, our LT is injured and probably won't play this Saturday. Take it easy on the rookie replacement and keep the defenses simple for him.

Also be kind to Malik Foreman as he can't lift his right arm up past his shoulders.

Thanks, Coach Wells and Coach Warren
 
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Biopsyman said:
Injury reports are for Vegas
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THIS! Also you'd have organizations that would fudge it one way or the other. I can see where a team could report a guy expected out a week or two and he shows up the following Saturday and plays like an AA. I can hear his coach now, "Well Jimmy Joe wasn't expected to or go for very long and he tested out pregame and said he was going to try and play on it." Or the reverse, expected to play and got out on the field and couldn't go. No way to regulate it correctly IMO and would be meaningless over the long term. The NFL is regulated and Nelicheck still finds ways around it, makes it useless regarding the Patriots.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
I know that gambling is a big part of it.
But, I think many non gambling fans that follow their team closely do appreciate getting injury reports.
I don't gamble but I very much want to know which Vols won't play in games.
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I know you appreciate it and that's great.

But, you don't need it, don't have a right to it, and if I was player's parent, I'd be pissed about it being made public.

If I was a coach, I would produce the most dishonest injury report I could.

As someone said, injury reports are for Vegas. They serve no other purpose.

Opponents will find out who's playing and who's not on game day and they can guess what my player's injury is.
 
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CTM said:
Bama would have had to forfeit half their games when the Bear was there with those rules. He often said players would not play and then they always did. Namath against TN was a good example.
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Way before my time lol
 
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