Potential TV Ratings Play No Role Whatsoever

#76
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
So you realize they don't get any personal benefit, just a general, "hey, college football does better when tv ratings are higher, and I want it to succeed" mentality? You think that would lead to someone putting a different team in because they might rate a 9.8 while a different matchup might rate a 8.3? That doesn't seem very likely, especially when the marginal difference to any one athletic department is infinitesimally small
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Why does that not seem very likely? How do you know the marginal difference it makes is infinitesimally small, can you source that for me? We can play the game of asking you to spell out very basic concepts too.
 
#77
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Yeah...no kidding...I'm telling you to maybe buck up a bit, people are saying a lot worse to me and I'm not crying about it.
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You called me dumb because I disagreed with you. I have to do what is right to help maintain the integrity of this board . It has been reported by me. It is also my recommendation that you be banned for the duration of the postseason, or at least until the first batch of Nielsen ratings come out on the Monday after the first round of the CFP. It seems necessary that you need to pump the brakes a little bit and be more inclusive with your disagreements moving forward.

Remember you did this. Not me.
 
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barney said:
Because we are looking at a 15 year pattern of selectivity bias, not one year.

I'd be surprised if they kept smu in the field if they lose to Clemson.
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15 year pattern? what do you mean? Bowls are influenced by non football factors, no one would really doubt that.

How could they possibly choose SMU over Bama if TV ratings are so important?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Yes or no...Are AD's outnumbered by people who clearly would have no skin in the game, guys like Pinkel and Grobe, et al?
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Pinkel, Grobe and the AD’s are puppets. It’s controlled by Sankey, the Big 10 commissioner and ESPN. They have all the power. If you don’t think they aren’t pulling the strings in this thing, you are woefully naive.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Dude you’ve got 30 or so ppl in here telling you you’re wrong but you’re too locked in on your stupid opinion to even consider you might be wrong.
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Dude doesn’t realize that when 99% of the people disagree with you then you are generally wrong. But that hasn’t stopped him. Some folks are clueless that way.
 
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Delmar said:
Pinkel, Grobe and the AD’s are puppets. It’s controlled by Sankey, the Big 10 commissioner and ESPN. They have all the power. If you don’t think they aren’t pulling the strings in this thing, you are woefully naive.
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Ahhh...so the "conferences" tell them what to do and they just fall in line, vote like they're told? The "committee" and their "deliberations" are all just window dressing, huh? People that don't understand how the world works always imagine it to be more complicated than it really is. Those people have never been in a power position and if they had been they'd know this is a silly argument
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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FYI, ESPN owns all the broadcast rights for every CFP game. They are paying the committee, no other broadcast entity has a dog in this fight. It is 100% ESPN's show.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
why would a committee member care what "the conferences they are attached to" want?
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All of the people on the committee are in the football industry. They want the industry to thrive.

When they have a chance to boost a brand that's been proven to help the industry, they should and will do that. It's good for the industry.

Their motivation is to do what is good for the industry as a whole.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Ahhh...so the "conferences" tell them what to do and they just fall in line, vote like they're told? The "committee" and their "deliberations" are all just window dressing, huh? People that don't understand how the world works always imagine it to be more complicated than it really is. Those people have never been in a power position and if they had been they'd know this is a silly argument
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This is the correct answer. Window dressing and all.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Ahhh...so the "conferences" tell them what to do and they just fall in line, vote like they're told? The "committee" and their "deliberations" are all just window dressing, huh? People that don't understand how the world works always imagine it to be more complicated than it really is. Those people have never been in a power position and if they had been they'd know this is a silly argument
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I’ve been around long enough and was in enough power and management positions in my career to know one simple undeniable fact. He who has the gold makes the rules. And in the world of college football, NOBODY has more gold than the SEC, the Big 10 and ESPN and they can and will bring pressure to bear to get what they want. Again, if folks don’t understand that, then they don’t understand the real world. End of discussion. I’m not getting into a battle of wits with an unarmed man. The fact that nobody has agreed with you should tell you who is unarmed in this battle.
 
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#92
There's a reason Miss State vs Kentucky isn't the 7:30 prime time ABC game. It's maximum money at all times. That's the only consideration. The playoff committee is the same way. They want eyeballs. Miami doesn't have a fan base that's particularly large. Bama still has folks on the bandwagon. So they will ride that bandwagon.

I expect the orders were something like "we get Bama in over Miami, and Ohio State/Penn State will get the home game vs Tennessee"
 
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VolArmy74 said:
There's a reason Miss State vs Kentucky isn't the 7:30 prime time ABC game. It's maximum money at all times. That's the only consideration. The playoff committee is the same way. They want eyeballs. Miami doesn't have a fan base that's particularly large. Bama still has folks on the bandwagon. So they will ride that bandwagon.

I expect the orders were something like "we get Bama in over Miami, and Ohio State/Penn State will get the home game vs Tennessee"
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I get that, and its stating the obvious, really. What no one has been able to answer is what personal benefit accrues to the people, you know, that actually choose the teams? Would you listen to the conference peiople you say are intheir ears if you were on the committee? Or would you just choose who you thought were the best teams?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I get that, and its stating the obvious, really. What no one has been able to answer is what personal benefit accrues to the people, you know, that actually choose the teams? Would you listen to the conference peiople you say are intheir ears if you were on the committee? Or would you just choose who you thought were the best teams?
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If someone wants to be fair and unbiased then they have no business being on the committee and likely wouldn't be selected in the first place.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
why would a committee member care what "the conferences they are attached to" want?
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Because the committee member is attached to the Big10 or the ACC or the SEC, so yes they care.

You are simply to subborn to stupid to understand what everyone is telling you. Stop digging hole deeper....learn what you don't know.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Ahhh...so the "conferences" tell them what to do and they just fall in line, vote like they're told? The "committee" and their "deliberations" are all just window dressing, huh? People that don't understand how the world works always imagine it to be more complicated than it really is. Those people have never been in a power position and if they had been they'd know this is a silly argument
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And some of the money going to Ukraine doesn't end up back Bidens bank account.......

You may be too nieve to survive in this world.
 
#99
#99
Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I get that, and its stating the obvious, really. What no one has been able to answer is what personal benefit accrues to the people, you know, that actually choose the teams? Would you listen to the conference peiople you say are intheir ears if you were on the committee? Or would you just choose who you thought were the best teams?
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Well you are getting dangerously close to figuring it out yourself now it seems. Why would you or I not be on that committee, Do they just pick random people to be on it? might it be that to get on the committee in the first place you have to have some sort of relationship with people such that they know you will do their bidding when the push comes to shove?
 
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Golfprovol said:
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Golfprovol said:
Because the committee member is attached to the Big10 or the ACC or the SEC, so yes they care.

You are simply to subborn to stupid to understand what everyone is telling you. Stop digging hole deeper....learn what you don't know.
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They're not "attached" to any conference, at least not the vast majority of them...some have a history with that conference of course but it would be sort of crazy to think that Kelly Whiteside for example is all in for the Big 10 because she used to teach there
 
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