Potential TV Ratings Play No Role Whatsoever

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maryvillenative said:
Every single person on the committee, AD or not, has some sort of tie (direct or indirect) to a school and, unlike you, understand the importance of TV viewership. I'm taking Mark Twain's advice and be done. You remind me of one of Ron White's famous quotes.
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so you can't answer this one...I thought this would be a lil speedbump for y'all...thanks

Lower TV ratings...negative impact on a committee member like Jim Grobe is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')

Higher TV ratings...positive impact on a committee member like Kelly Whiteside is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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Lets just say the Big10 gets the final 2 teams so they are guaranteed to have the national champion. The Big10 then makes more money because each school makes more money. The more schools in the playoff, the more money for the conference.

You are right, the actual broadcasters don't care, but the networks do, the conferences so, the university president's do, the AD's do. The match ups in the playoffs will matter to the committee to enhance the revenue and make things interesting.

If the playoff is boring, fewer people watch, which means less $ per commercial, which means less conference revenue. #1 bitch about the 4 team playoff games - they were blow outs and not fun to watch. The committee sure as hell does not want a 2nd round matchup between Georgia and Texas for the 3rd time this year.

Thinking $$ is not involved is short sighted, not informed about the amount of $$'s involved, and closed minded. The committee doesn't just randomly select teams to be involved, they are looking at merit, but the $$ is involved. Bama is a much bigger brand than Miami. Both teams have arguments to be included but Bama makes more money, Bama creates more buzz, more clicks, more talk about the playoff, which in turn makes more $$. Therefore they use the Bama arguments to include them
 
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Golfprovol said:
Lets just say the Big10 gets the final 2 teams so they are guaranteed to have the national champion. The Big10 then makes more money because each school makes more money. The more schools in the playoff, the more money for the conference.

You are right, the actual broadcasters don't care, but the networks do, the conferences so, the university president's do, the AD's do. The match ups in the playoffs will matter to the committee to enhance the revenue and make things interesting.

If the playoff is boring, fewer people watch, which means less $ per commercial, which means less conference revenue. #1 bitch about the 4 team playoff games - they were blow outs and not fun to watch. The committee sure as hell does not want a 2nd round matchup between Georgia and Texas for the 3rd time this year.

Thinking $$ is not involved is short sighted, not informed about the amount of $$'s involved, and closed minded. The committee doesn't just randomly select teams to be involved, they are looking at merit, but the $$ is involved. Bama is a much bigger brand than Miami. Both teams have arguments to be included but Bama makes more money, Bama creates more buzz, more clicks, more talk about the playoff, which in turn makes more $$. Therefore they use the Bama arguments to include them
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Money is of course involved, it just doesn't matter to committee members. Is not one brave soul going to even take a crack at this?

Lower TV ratings...negative impact on a committee member like Jim Grobe is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')

Higher TV ratings...positive impact on a committee member like Kelly Whiteside is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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The people who decide who is on the committee (the conference commissioners) care what the TV ratings are. That's like 95% of their job.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Money is of course involved, it just doesn't matter to committee members. Is not one brave soul going to even take a crack at this?

Lower TV ratings...negative impact on a committee member like Jim Grobe is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')

Higher TV ratings...positive impact on a committee member like Kelly Whiteside is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')
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I just explained how it does matter to committee members. You realize they are connected to schools right?

If you can't understand the reasons everyone in here have told you, then we do not have enough crayons to explain it anymore.

Mods: can we just delete this thread since it is pointless
 
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Given the expanded playoffs, there's going to be some more TCU situations where teams belong but they don't belong. Still, they won their conference so there they are.

When it comes to "the bubble" teams, anyone who thinks Bama, who brings a lot of eyeballs and a few teeth, won't get the breaks is fooling themselves.

In the Saban years, they usually didn't need the bump up but when they did, they got it. That they got it again when on the bubble isn't surprising.

Sure, teams like Bama and ND get breaks because they bring eyeballs. "Money doesn't talk, it swears" is a universal truth.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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It is better to be thought a fool and remain silent than to speak and remove all doubt

-Abraham Lincoln
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Money is of course involved, it just doesn't matter to committee members. Is not one brave soul going to even take a crack at this?

Lower TV ratings...negative impact on a committee member like Jim Grobe is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')

Higher TV ratings...positive impact on a committee member like Kelly Whiteside is X (this is where you fill in the 'X')
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Money and favors, just about every single post on here is telling you that but your head is so far up your ass you cant hear it.
 
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CincinnatiVols said:
Money and favors, just about every single post on here is telling you that but your head is so far up your ass you cant hear it.
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Money and favors from whom? They get bribes you're saying?

Golfprovol said:
I just explained how it does matter to committee members. You realize they are connected to schools right?

If you can't understand the reasons everyone in here have told you, then we do not have enough crayons to explain it anymore.

Mods: can we just delete this thread since it is pointless
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Well, if it's so simple why can't anyone name a single benefit from positive ratings or a negative outcome from lower ratings? Must not be a good argument. Just real simple.

"The positive outcome of positive ratings is X..."

The negative outcome of lower ratings is Y..."

That one seems to trip you guys up lol
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Money and favors from whom? They get bribes you're saying?



Well, if it's so simple why can't anyone name a single benefit from positive ratings or a negative outcome from lower ratings? Must not be a good argument. Just real simple.

"The positive outcome of positive ratings is X..."

The negative outcome of lower ratings is Y..."

That one seems to trip you guys up lol
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The positive outcome of positive ratings is more money.
The negative outcome of lower ratings is less money.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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You are quite naive. It would be nice if the world worked the way you think it does.
 
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Kas232323 said:
You are quite naive. It would be nice if the world worked the way you think it does.
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Maybe you can be the first to answer this then…tell me how the world works.

Higher ratings confer what positive benefit to a committee member?

Or conversely take a stab at the opposing side..what is the negative for low ratings?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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Ratings equal money. Money absolutely influences the rankings. Bama being in should tell you.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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This is silly. Games/teams that make the most money will play night games through the season. Why wouldn't it be the same in the playoffs?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Committee members don't get mre $$ if TV ratings are higher or less when they're lower. Try again
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Sure and FDA officials don't get more money when they install regulations that help big pharma.... They just do exactly what they think is right. Just a coincidence that they end up on the board of one of those company later...
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
I keep seeing this over and over and if you're someone who believes this you are misinformed. The committee deliberates each week and comes to a consensus about where all the teams should be ranked and puts the teams in order. No more no less. I mean, think about it, why the heck would Gary Pinkel care about what the TV ratings are? It makes no sense and really, it a dumb argument.

Would the broadcast partners care about TV ratings? Obviously, ESPN cares about this aspect but they have no seat at the table.

Please quit making this argument...it makes no sense. And if you disagree, just tell me why a committee member might care about ratings?
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Dumb take to be honest. It's always about the money.
 
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wrharvey21 said:
Dumb take to be honest. It's always about the money.
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Ok, we got some newcomers…who can be the first to answer it? Only one has even tried, which says a lot

What is the positive benefit to a committee member if ratings are high or what’s the negative if they’re low? This is the wall you guys keep running into
 
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