Potential target list.

#76
#76
bleedingTNorange said:
Uhm Tyndall himself said he was filling the class, are you saying he's a liar?

If you're saying Lopez and Campbell should both be on scholly you're saying we should pass on 2 recruits, that would be a worse move than any Martin ever made.
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How's Wes Washpun doing these days? :)
 
#77
#77
SeniorDrill said:
Brandon Lopez in 2012-13 from Basketball Time in Tennessee. He earned his first letter as a Vol after averaging 5.8 minutes of playing time in 17 games. Brandon scored 5 points to go with 11 rebounds, 8 assists and 3 steals, he he averaged 6.1 minutes on the court in 8 SEC appearances. Lopez scored his first career SEC points when he drove to the basket to lay in a finger roll in the win over #8 Florida, and he was called to action when Trae Golden went out due to injury against Vanderbilit on 1/29/13 and responded with a career high 3 assists and 2 rebounds to help lead the Vols to victory. Coach Martin had this to say about Lopez, "He has every right to get minutes like everyone else. He knows he fights for those minutes. I went back and watched last season's games. Watching him play, he came in during some big games and helped give us a boost. He came in and gave us major minutes." And you say he is not worth a scholarship! Shows exactly how much you really know! Here is a guy who has busted his butt for 3 years helping this Tennessee basketball team, and you say give the scholarship to some dude who has probably never set foot on campus!!!
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So in your wisdom, someone that has 5 points, 3 rebounds, 3 steals, 8 assists and 10 turnovers in three years deserves a scholarship? Not saying he hasn't contributed to the team he has but he has been rewarded just by being on the team. I'm sure he's loved the experience.
 
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#78
#78
SeniorDrill said:
I am saying they should have scholarships their last one or two years!
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#79
#79
SeniorDrill said:
Brandon Lopez in 2012-13 from Basketball Time in Tennessee. He earned his first letter as a Vol after averaging 5.8 minutes of playing time in 17 games. Brandon scored 5 points to go with 11 rebounds, 8 assists and 3 steals, he he averaged 6.1 minutes on the court in 8 SEC appearances. Lopez scored his first career SEC points when he drove to the basket to lay in a finger roll in the win over #8 Florida, and he was called to action when Trae Golden went out due to injury against Vanderbilit on 1/29/13 and responded with a career high 3 assists and 2 rebounds to help lead the Vols to victory. Coach Martin had this to say about Lopez, "He has every right to get minutes like everyone else. He knows he fights for those minutes. I went back and watched last season's games. Watching him play, he came in during some big games and helped give us a boost. He came in and gave us major minutes." And you say he is not worth a scholarship! Shows exactly how much you really know! Here is a guy who has busted his butt for 3 years helping this Tennessee basketball team, and you say give the scholarship to some dude who has probably never set foot on campus!!!
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Calm down Mr. Lopez. No I hope they don't get a scholly so we can get better players on our team. UT isn't a humanitarian effort, we are trying to get the best players we can and win.
 
#80
#80
jknox33 said:
This is why I was concerned with not having a recommit from Cofer tonight. With it being slow played and having other guys visit, if someone like Owens or McGhee wanted to commit and Underwood is announced and releases some guys from USM then those 6 schollies will dwindle quickly. I don't know if we really take more than 3 long post players. Someone's getting left out and we could see it as soon as this weekend.
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Agree 100%

I assume a phone call to Phil might get made if they have guys start popping, but then again maybe not. Owens and Cofer are pretty similar players, in this spot if you're Tyndall you take whichever guy wants to be a Vol first IMO.
 
#82
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volsbrock said:
So in your wisdom, someone that has 5 points, 3 rebounds, 3 steals, 8 assists and 10 turnovers in three years deserves a scholarship? Not saying he hasn't contributed to the team he has but he has been rewarded just by being on the team. I'm sure he's loved the experience.
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Correct, and he's willing to be here as a walkon. Why the heck would you give him a scholarship and lose out on Cofer/Owens?
 
#83
#83
bleedingTNorange said:
Agree 100%

I assume a phone call to Phil might get made if they have guys start popping, but then again maybe not. Owens and Cofer are pretty similar players, in this spot if you're Tyndall you take whichever guy wants to be a Vol first IMO.
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Absolutely. I was a CCM guy (and still have great admiration for the man), but it was tough to have all your eggs in one basket, slow play other recruits and then be left with nothing. Not getting Looney and seeing a decent player like London walk was tough. Working hard on Austin and slow playing JW3 was tough and we were left wanting. At this point in the game, you take the commits of guys on your target list regardless if they were your 2 or 3rd choice.
 
#84
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jknox33 said:
Absolutely. I was a CCM guy (and still have great admiration for the man), but it was tough to have all your eggs in one basket, slow play other recruits and then be left with nothing. Not getting Looney and seeing a decent player like London walk was tough. Working hard on Austin and slow playing JW3 was tough and we were left wanting. At this point in the game, you take the commits of guys on your target list regardless if they were your 2 or 3rd choice.
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Yup, and let's be honest, Tyndall has no biased towards Cofer. It's not as if he was recruiting him to Southern Miss and feels obligated, he's gonna go with whoever wants on board first.
 
#85
#85
bleedingTNorange said:
So to be clear, you're suggesting we place Lopez and Campbell on scholarship?
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I AM SAYING THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN SCHOLARSHIPS 12 AND 13. One of those will be available next year for an incoming freshman and the other the year after. The big commits can fill 8-11. Don't fill the roster with people who have never been on campus while kicking two VFLs out the door. That is pure BS about being on the team being reward enough for two and three years of infantry grunt work! Understand now?
 
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SeniorDrill said:
I AM SAYING THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN SCHOLARSHIPS 12 AND 13. One of those will be available next year for an incoming freshman and the other the year after. The big commits can fill 8-11. Don't fill the roster with people who have never been on campus while kicking two VFLs out the door. That is pure BS about being on the team being reward enough for two and three years of infantry grunt work! Understand now?
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I totally disagree....if two scholarships happen to be open them award it to them for yr only....scholarships are for recruited players.
 
#87
#87
We should really fill at least five of the scholarships with players. We need a lot of help. I think we have to leave one open for a late summer possibility. Right now we need a point guard. Another shooting guard and three bigs. I don't see that we have any to spare until late summer at that time we could award a one year scholarship to one of the walk ons.
 
#88
#88
volbeast33 said:
I totally disagree....if two scholarships happen to be open them award it to them for yr only....scholarships are for recruited players.
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This. The only way they get a scholarship is if they have one available for this upcoming year. But, I get the feeling that Tyndall will have alot to choose from and will fill up scholarships.
 
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VolGee4 said:
This. The only way they get a scholarship is if they have one available for this upcoming year. But, I get the feeling that Tyndall will have alot to choose from and will fill up scholarships.
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Yeah me too
 
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SeniorDrill said:
I AM SAYING THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN SCHOLARSHIPS 12 AND 13. One of those will be available next year for an incoming freshman and the other the year after. The big commits can fill 8-11. Don't fill the roster with people who have never been on campus while kicking two VFLs out the door. That is pure BS about being on the team being reward enough for two and three years of infantry grunt work! Understand now?
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Once again, WHO IS SAYING TO KICK THEM OFF THE TEAM?Do you really have to make things up to try and prove your point?

If Tyndall can not fill the open spots, with quality recruits who deserve a scholarship, then I agree 100% put those guys on scholarship.

However, if we take 4 guys in the next week, say Suarez, Carmichael, Owens and McGhee and are sitting with 2 open scholarships with Ellis and Cofer both wanting to commit...you don't turn those guys away because you wanna give 2 walk ons scholarships, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
 
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VolGee4 said:
This. The only way they get a scholarship is if they have one available for this upcoming year. But, I get the feeling that Tyndall will have alot to choose from and will fill up scholarships.
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Absolutely. It's the same thing Calipari has done, if he has an open scholarship or two a lucky walk on gets it. If he's able to fill that spot with a talented recruit though you better believe he's going to.
 
#92
#92
In 2013-14 Brandon Lopez and Galen Campbell were the only two non-scholarship players on the roster. Since they were good enough to be on the roster, let's say #14 and #15, and one has two years experience and the other three years experience playing for the Vols, it does not make sense for me that they cannot move to #12 and #13 for one year. If they are that bad, they should never have been placed on the travel roster in the first place. And their resume does not say they are bad players. They are certainly better than most players coming out of high school that are not 4 or 5 stars by now.
 
#94
#94
SeniorDrill said:
In 2013-14 Brandon Lopez and Galen Campbell were the only two non-scholarship players on the roster. Since they were good enough to be on the roster, let's say #14 and #15, and one has two years experience and the other three years experience playing for the Vols, it does not make sense for me that they cannot move to #12 and #13 for one year. If they are that bad, they should never have been placed on the travel roster in the first place. And their resume does not say they are bad players. They are certainly better than most players coming out of high school that are not 4 or 5 stars by now.
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I would suggest you letting this go. I believe every team can have two walk-on spots on their roster. These two players fill those spots. At this point, unless there are scholarships open that will not be filled, then they can get them. Otherwise, this isn't even up for debate, and it doesn't make sense to continue the discussion.
 
#95
#95
VolGee4 said:
I would suggest you letting this go. I believe every team can have two walk-on spots on their roster. These two players fill those spots. At this point, unless there are scholarships open that will not be filled, then they can get them. Otherwise, this isn't even up for debate, and it doesn't make sense to continue the discussion.
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Just a 65 year old taking a 24 year old who thinks he knows it all to school! That's all!
 
#96
#96
SeniorDrill said:
Just a 65 year old taking a 24 year old who thinks he knows it all to school! That's all!
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By telling me walkons should get scholarships over high major recruits you're taking me to school?

Not quite, I would suggest taking your meds or getting new ones gramps, because you're clearly off your damn rocker.
 
#98
#98
SeniorDrill said:
Just a 65 year old taking a 24 year old who thinks he knows it all to school! That's all!
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You must be showing alot more compassion as you get older:)

But, if you want our program to improve and continue its success, offering two walk-ons a scholarship doesn't quite accomplish that.
 
#99
#99
Like I've said, if you've got an open scholarship or two, absolutely give those to the walkons. However, if you've got a chance to add high major recruits to your team, this is not even a discussion.
 
#100
#100
bleedingTNorange said:
Like I've said, if you've got an open scholarship or two, absolutely give those to the walkons. However, if you've got a chance to add high major recruits to your team, this is not even a discussion.
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Actually, I believe he's already said he has no problem with carrying a couple scholly offers over to next season.
 
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