Potential QB Transfers

[xpsyclonex2002]

All I'm going to say is, I've seen the way some of the quarterbacks who left our program played when they went elsewhere. They're play while here at Tennessee has dang sure not been indicative of their actual skill levels. So before we get to writing off any of our quarterbacks, we need to let another coaching staff have a crack at developing them. Those kids had all those Stars by their names when we recruited them for a reason.

 

[KBVol]

2 interceptions vs Florida were due to Callaway running a route to short. Callaway admitted that post game. Other interception was because Palmer allowed his guy to beat him on a slant.

1 pick of his vs UGA hit Palmer in the body and Palmer bobbled it into the air right into UGa’s defensive backs hands. So 60% of his SEC picks were completely on the receivers. It’s amazinf how little football knowledge people have. It’s also twice as amazing how many idiotic claims people will claim to assasinate a player’s character.

Not quite true regarding his interceptions vs UF. His first interception was when he threw the ball behind Ty Chandler on a short crossing route out of the backfield. You’re right on the other 2....he threw high to Callaway for sure, but he got both hands on it, should’ve caught it. The other was Palmer’s fault as he let the DB cross his face on the goal line.

 

[KBVol]

Butch allowed the scholarship punter to transfer to Florida.

Good catch Butchna. The Townsend kid joined his brother in Gainesville per Lyle’s blessing.

 

[JMSqb11]

Not quite true regarding his interceptions vs UF. His first interception was when he threw the ball behind Ty Chandler on a short crossing route out of the backfield. You’re right on the other 2....he threw high to Callaway for sure, but he got both hands on it, should’ve caught it. The other was Palmer’s fault as he let the DB cross his face on the goal line.

So you’re basically validating what i said.

Palmer didn’t cut his guy off on a 1 step drop and throw play.

And once again, you missed the point. Callaway ran a route 3-4 yards short. The reason the pass looked “high” is because the WR ran a short route. Hell, Callaway even said he ran the wrong route. That’s a fact.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

QD played hurt.
JG played behind a turnstile OL.
WM looked comfortable and capable until he had to play from behind

Much to be learned. Too many unknowns. JG appears to have an edge.

 

[KBVol]

So you’re basically validating what i said.

Palmer didn’t cut his guy off on a 1 step drop and throw play.

And once again, you missed the point. Callaway ran a route 3-4 yards short. The reason the pass looked “high” is because the WR ran a short route. Hell, Callaway even said he ran the wrong route. That’s a fact.

I validated 2 of your points, and directly disputed the 3rd because it was flat out wrong.

 

[Alto1]

Unless the QBs on our current roster QD, JG, or WM make vast improvement, none of them will do well against SEC oponents.

 

[KBVol]

QD played hurt.
JG played behind a turnstile OL.
WM looked comfortable and capable until he had to play from behind

Much to be learned. Too many unknowns. JG appears to have an edge.

WM looked “comfortable and capable”?? When? While completing 42% of his passes, with twice as many interceptions as touchdowns, with an awful 72 QBR, while playing two of the worst defenses on our schedule? McBride can’t play here imo. It’ll be JG and Shrout 1-2 in the fall if I had to guess.

 

[lexkyvol]

JG did not play better than Dormady - the only reason his completion % is higher is because they scaled back the offense a bit because of his inexperience, resulting in more short range throws

the sweet sounds of excuses

 

[tbones0711]

Were any off those guys consistently good? I’ll wait. Maybe gaulden. Also yes, everyone sucked. Don’t try to sugar coat it.

Bituli has a lot to learn and now may have to bulk up some. He was pretty bad about "over-running" the play which allowed opposing rushers a lot of cut-back lanes. Sapp rates out fair. Ought to be interesting to see how DKjr and TKjr and S.Reid pan out with new coaches.

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

Step 1... and the MOST important step, Find a good O line group that can actually protect the QB.

Step 2...Get the QB's coached up as much as we can and as fast as we can.

After we fix those 2 most important problems will we ever be able to realistically try to figure out if we have a decent QB or not.

Behind the O lines we've been trying to put together the last few seasons with numerous injuries even Manning and Brady would fail and probably get injured.

One step at a time is what it's going to take to figure out the horrid mess we have for a Team right now.

At least now we seem to have some real, serious football coaches to start rebuilding us back from the ashes.

VFL...GBO!!!

 

[rocytop2624]

The article clearly states that Georgia was the last hold out in the conference (of which Tennessee is a member) to stop inter conference transfers. Tennessee has never allowed them, so now that Smart is following the same rule that UT is following he is somehow a prick? That is silly. The fact is as of today Eason is the second string quarterback at Georgia and has not expressed a desire to transfer. Should that change after the playoff he will be allowed to transfer outside the SEC. The funny thing is that some UT fans keep tossing his name out there but the reality is Tennessee, in its current state, would not even be considered by the Easons.

What makes Smart a prick is he came from a sec school to coach at another and he said he wouldn't let Eason do this when all he did is get hurt. I could care less if Eason transferred to another sec school the point is his situation should dictate he can play were ever he wants.

 

[LordBolton]

McBride? Really? What in God’s name did that kid do in a game and a half to impress anybody?

42% completion rate, 1 td/2 ints, 3 yards per attempt, QBR a full 56 points below Guarantano’s and 45 below QD’s.....while playing 2 of the weakest defenses we played all year. It’s just amazing how enamored people get with the backup qb, but usually when he absolutely blows when he plays, like McBride did, they tend to lower their opinion. I know that neither JG nor QD exactly tore it up last year, but both were light years better than McBride. MCBRIDE??

Didn't we give up 2 sacks in those games because McBride thought he heard the National Anthem and took a knee?

 

[Snapper58]

Step 1... and the MOST important step, Find a good O line group that can actually protect the QB.

Step 2...Get the QB's coached up as much as we can and as fast as we can.

After we fix those 2 most important problems will we ever be able to realistically try to figure out if we have a decent QB or not.

Behind the O lines we've been trying to put together the last few seasons with numerous injuries even Manning and Brady would fail and probably get injured.

One step at a time is what it's going to take to figure out the horrid mess we have for a Team right now.

At least now we seem to have some real, serious football coaches to start rebuilding us back from the ashes.

VFL...GBO!!!

#3 also have to coach up the receivers to be discipline and know the routes! If all three of these occur, i really see a vast improvement on offense. If the offense can get fewer 3 and outs, then the defense with the added intensity will be hugely improved. It takes both sides of the ball to be successful.

 

[JMSqb11]

I validated 2 of your points, and directly disputed the 3rd because it was flat out wrong.

There’s nothing to dispute. Fact is that 60% of QD’s SEC picks were 100% caused by receivers. Not that hard to understand.

 

[Biopsyman]

Justin Worley had a paper arm

 

[KBVol]

Didn't we give up 2 sacks in those games because McBride thought he heard the National Anthem and took a knee?

Lol. And that’s the other thing. He can gtfo with his social justice warrior mess.

 

[MFL]

Funny they can say one Tennessee QB out performed the other in. 0-8 season.
Seems like it’s open season on who gets the job with new coach.

 

[UTVolax24]

Find it highly unlikely we get a transfer at QB...

 

[zjcvols]

Wilton Speight might be an option too. Kind of QB Helton likes.

 

[k-town_king]

There’s nothing to dispute. Fact is that 60% of QD’s SEC picks were 100% caused by receivers. Not that hard to understand.

Fact is defensive backs dropped at least ten more interceptions he threw right to them.

Either way he was leading the league in turnovers. He is a turnover machine who stares wrs down, forces passes into coverage, and overthrows guys.

 

[k-town_king]

Wilton Speight might be an option too. Kind of QB Helton likes.

I hope not. He is pretty terrible.

 

[KBVol]

There’s nothing to dispute. Fact is that 60% of QD’s SEC picks were 100% caused by receivers. Not that hard to understand.

Dude....you originally said this....”2 interceptions vs Florida were due to Callaway running a route to short”.

That’s not true, that’s what I’m disputing.

Only ONE of his interceptions were when he threw the ball to Callaway...the pick 6 when he threw the ball high to Callaway, when the ball hit Callaway’s hands, when you say Callaway ran his route too short. Got that?

One of the other 2 interceptions was when Palmer ran the wrong route at the goal line.

The other, THE ONE YOU SEEM TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT, was when he threw the ball behind Ty Chandler running a shallow crossing route and it was intercepted by Florida inside linebacker David Reese, #33.....our first offensive possession, 4:11 mark of the first quarter, on 3rd and 10.

So, TWO interceptions WERE NOT when Callaway ran his routes too short, only ONE was. That’s what I’m, correctly, disputing based on what you said. Clear?

And that changes your numbers/percentages on how many of QD’s were on him or on his WRs....because the first interception he threw vs Florida was 100% on him, not because Callaway ran the wrong route, especially since he was throwing the ball to Chandler. Definitely not hard to understand.

 

[UTVolax24]

I hope not. He is pretty terrible.

He's definitely better than what we have...

 

[KBVol]

There was a lot more talent on team '17 than you guys seem to want to admit. We probably win Fla, SC, UK and Vandy games with a better QB, and the point of this thread, I think, is we are hoping for an upgrade via a grad transfer - someone who can give Pruitt and fighting chance at a bowl his first season as coach.

The only good thing about our QB play last season was it got Butch fired!

It was much more than poor QB play. As a matter of fact, there was a game where the team lost despite very good quarterback play....Kentucky. Additionally, QD played more than well enough vs Florida to win....should’ve had 3 tds and 1 interception rather than the other way around...2 of the picks weren’t his fault and his teammates dropped 2 other sure td passes.

The failures of 2017 was a mixture of things....bad culture, poor coaching, poor player development, no leadership.

But at some point, if we had a superior team/talent compared to average to bad teams like UMass, Kentucky, Missouri and Vanderbilt, it would’ve shown. Hell, Indiana State constantly beat our defense to the corners with simple jet sweeps, we couldn’t outrun them to the edge. At no point could our supposed 4 and 5 star DEs and DTs just line up and beat the 2 and 3 star players from the teams I mentioned above. At no point could our supposed highly ranked OLs block anybody, at no point could our supposedly highly ranked DBs tackle or run anybody down.

Missouri’s average class ranking the last 4 years is 37th, compared to our 10th or so, yet, no honest person could sit and watch our game with this year and not conclude that it was Missouri who has the bigger, stronger, quicker, faster athletes. That’s why people do more than just correctly point out the coaching and player development issues under Lyle....and why they also question just how much talent this roster really has. I personally think it considerably less than our previous class rankings suggest.