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#153
#153
Back in the 80's one of the terrorist groups kidnapped some Russians, made some demands from them, and killed one when Russia didn't immediately respond. Russia in turn, kidnapped family members of said terrorist, killed them, chopped them up, and sent them to the terrorist with a warning that more of their family would follow. The terrorist immediately let the remaining hostages go. Moral of story, we know where most of these people are, drop a bomb and kill everybody in its range. Men, women, children, pets, spiders, the mailman, etc. They all hate us anyway, and they're training these children to grow up hating us. They'll be the future terrorist, so kill them all in a village or town. Then send a message that each time they do their crap, We're killing everybody. Is it a horrible thing? Yes, but so is what they do, and they'll keep doing it as long as we smack their hand for cutting heads off, and blowing stuff up.
 
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#155
#155
Outlaw islam in countries that believe in democracy. The people willing to walk away from their pedophile prophet can come assimilate and the ones who continue supporting the muslim faith can continue killing and raping each other elsewhere. I'll never understand why some can't grasp that people with complete opposite cultures and beliefs can't mix. The women, black, hispanic, gay, islam etc. groups are getting along with each other the so well here that they all create groups consisting of only them and then shame people into agreeing with their stupid crap. Democracy wants to allow people to be themselves but we can't even get it right with what he currently have here. Islam and sharia law are nothing like democracy except for the part where they can't get along either.

Jesus is all about love but I don't think he's down with sharia law and having Christians be murdered and forced to acknowledge a false prophet named muhummad. I mean, their prophet had sex with a 9 year old. But it's cool, she like had her period, man. I don't know why people feel the need to be so PC. Call a spade a spade, it's a a religion with a false prophet.

Ron L Hubbard, David Miscaivage and Tom Cruise are all false prophets too. Nobody takes offense other than scientologist when you call their religion made up trash. Why is it okay to hate on scientology and their prophet but you're a bigot for thinking islam is a stupid religion that sucks ass too? Guess I'm a bigot because I think Tom Cruise is an f'ing moron that believes in an alien named xenu. Yeah, okay, sorry but my mind is made up. Nobody is going to convince me to acknowledge xenu and beat around the bush about what a piece of s*** "religion" scientology is. It's just a bunch of morons with "e-meters".



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FLVOL69 said:
Shiite went right over your head, no surprise here..
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Nothing flew over my head, sweetheart. Joe made it very clear what he called for. His solution is to deliberately kill all their men, women, and children, regardless of their affiliation to any terrorist group. He didn't say anything about even trying to mitigate collateral damage, he literally wants to kill their innocents as retaliation.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised he spelled it out so openly, many here who seem to agree with him have hemmed and hawed around the same basic opinion instead of just saying that's what they want to happen.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Nothing flew over my head, sweetheart. Joe made it very clear what he called for. His solution is to deliberately kill all their men, women, and children, regardless of their affiliation to any terrorist group. He didn't say anything about even trying to mitigate collateral damage, he literally wants to kill their innocents as retaliation.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised he spelled it out so openly, many here who seem to agree with him have hemmed and hawed around the same basic opinion instead of just saying that's what they want to happen.
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Try again sunshine, he said the family members of said terrorist's not random ****ing mooslems. That's all these savages understand you liberal appeaser. Have fun in Jax with all those peaceful Syrian refugees..
 
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MercyPercy said:
Nothing flew over my head, sweetheart. Joe made it very clear what he called for. His solution is to deliberately kill all their men, women, and children, regardless of their affiliation to any terrorist group. He didn't say anything about even trying to mitigate collateral damage, he literally wants to kill their innocents as retaliation.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised he spelled it out so openly, many here who seem to agree with him have hemmed and hawed around the same basic opinion instead of just saying that's what they want to happen.
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Maybe he's a subscriber to Machiavelli's thoughts on the subject of war.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Try again sunshine, he said the family members of said terrorist's not random ****ing mooslems. That's all these savages understand you liberal appeaser. Have fun in Jax with all those peaceful Syrian refugees..
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Yea this. These terrorist are taking over cities and killing, or running off the innocent people. They know which cities they're hold up in, heck I know which cities, its on tv everyday. So kill them, the terrorist and whoever is with them is what I'm saying.
 
#162
#162
And since innocence was brought up, let me ask this. Which floors of the world trade center were avoided in order not to kill innocent people with the planes? Which offices of the Pentagon were avoidedyby the terrorist? All the car bombs, were the innocent taken into account? Did they do a background check of each person they beheaded to make sure they weren't innocent? We see clearly how diplomacy works with these idiots. I just say its time to fight fire with fire. Violence is the only answer, because its all they understand.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Try again sunshine, he said the family members of said terrorist's not random ****ing mooslems.
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No reason for you to lie when there's evidence right above us, my dear.

joevol33 said:
Moral of story, we know where most of these people are, drop a bomb and kill everybody in its range. Men, women, children, pets, spiders, the mailman, etc. They all hate us anyway, and they're training these children to grow up hating us. They'll be the future terrorist, so kill them all in a village or town. Then send a message that each time they do their crap, We're killing everybody. Is it a horrible thing? Yes, but so is what they do, and they'll keep doing it as long as we smack their hand for cutting heads off, and blowing stuff up.
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Nothing in here specifies he's just talking about killing terrorists and their families(which is interesting because even then there's no distinction being made between family that actually supports the terrorists or family that has nothing to do with them, but hey, whatever satisfies that bloodlust), in fact he goes out of his way to say "kill everybody in its range." Generally, that involves, as you put it.. "random ****ing moosems."

That's all these savages understand you liberal appeaser. Have fun in Jax with all those peaceful Syrian refugees..
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So just to be clear, since you have failed to make any distinction, you believe we should slaughter all familial relations of known terrorists:

1. Regardless of whether they actually support the enemy or not.

2. Regardless of how distantly related or young the family member may be.

Fascinating.
 
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#164
First and foremost, you create a wide ranging coalition including predominantly Muslim Nations. Those Muslim Nations that refuse, you put economic and military sanctions on them. With Russia in the mix, you can put a stranglehold on their ability to wage Jihad.

Secondly, you first hit important strategic targets such as weapons caches, military infrastructure, utility infrastructure, manufacturing infrastructure, strongholds. Take down communication networks such as cell towers, radio stations, t.v stations. Limit the ability to spread their propaganda through media. Destruction of the communication networks hampers their ability to complete the missions. Attack their support networks. Stop all money from flowing from Western countries to know areas that support these Terrorists. Deport any individuals know to support these Terrorists

You do this by putting intelligence members on the ground. Muslims willing to show they are as active in destroying Radical Islam as the West

Once the infrastructure is severely crippled, you send in ground troops. This includes armored divisions, combat troops, special ops, air support, etc. You take off the stupid restrictions for our rules of engagement. Let them do what is necessary to root out and kill, not capture, these radicals.

Once there is a sense of calm, occupy those areas until there is stability. Help establish new government and help those areas until we are happy that the new government will be able to thwart any Radical resistance.Insist, just like here, that there is equal representation of all ethnic regimes. For that area, it would mean inclusions of Shiite, Sunni, Kurds, and Christians.Insist that laws are passed and a Constitution is draw to protect the rights of all members of their society.

Insist on the outlaw of Sharia Law. It's not conducive to a free society. Its Radical and teaches the subordinate behavior of women and abuse of women

Help build up infrastructure through partnerships with Western businesses and local businesses. Create jobs and help create an environment conducive to a growing economy. Educate the masses. Promote free speech and expression.


We left Iraq too soon and Obamas decision to pull out without guaranteeing the regional stability is the reason we see this now. We can't make that mistake again
 
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MercyPercy said:
So just to be clear, since you have failed to make any distinction, you believe we should slaughter all familial relations of known terrorists:

1. Regardless of whether they actually support the enemy or not.

2. Regardless of how distantly related or young the family member may be.

Fascinating.
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Obviously if the ties to a family members aren't close enough to the terrorists to have an emotional impact... there's no reason to kill them. We aren't animals.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Nothing flew over my head, sweetheart. Joe made it very clear what he called for. His solution is to deliberately kill all their men, women, and children, regardless of their affiliation to any terrorist group. He didn't say anything about even trying to mitigate collateral damage, he literally wants to kill their innocents as retaliation.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised he spelled it out so openly, many here who seem to agree with him have hemmed and hawed around the same basic opinion instead of just saying that's what they want to happen.
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What? No reaction to my post?

I'm disappointed Mercy.
 
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joevol33 said:
Back in the 80's one of the terrorist groups kidnapped some Russians, made some demands from them, and killed one when Russia didn't immediately respond. Russia in turn, kidnapped family members of said terrorist, killed them, chopped them up, and sent them to the terrorist with a warning that more of their family would follow. The terrorist immediately let the remaining hostages go. Moral of story, we know where most of these people are, drop a bomb and kill everybody in its range. Men, women, children, pets, spiders, the mailman, etc. They all hate us anyway, and they're training these children to grow up hating us. They'll be the future terrorist, so kill them all in a village or town. Then send a message that each time they do their crap, We're killing everybody. Is it a horrible thing? Yes, but so is what they do, and they'll keep doing it as long as we smack their hand for cutting heads off, and blowing stuff up.
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Joe, that is a myth. The Russians had a terrible time dealing with insurgents and rebels in Chechnya. Don't forget how their heavy handed tactics lost them Afghanistan as well. They have good press but aren't any more capable of dealing with these situations then we are and are worse at times.
 
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YorkVol said:
Joe, that is a myth. The Russians had a terrible time dealing with insurgents and rebels in Chechnya. Don't forget how their heavy handed tactics lost them Afghanistan as well. They have good press but aren't any more capable of dealing with these situations then we are and are worse at times.
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The G2 has spoken! :hi:
 
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CountVolcula said:
First and foremost, you create a wide ranging coalition including predominantly Muslim Nations. Those Muslim Nations that refuse, you put economic and military sanctions on them. With Russia in the mix, you can put a stranglehold on their ability to wage Jihad.

Secondly, you first hit important strategic targets such as weapons caches, military infrastructure, utility infrastructure, manufacturing infrastructure, strongholds. Take down communication networks such as cell towers, radio stations, t.v stations. Limit the ability to spread their propaganda through media. Destruction of the communication networks hampers their ability to complete the missions. Attack their support networks. Stop all money from flowing from Western countries to know areas that support these Terrorists. Deport any individuals know to support these Terrorists

You do this by putting intelligence members on the ground. Muslims willing to show they are as active in destroying Radical Islam as the West

Once the infrastructure is severely crippled, you send in ground troops. This includes armored divisions, combat troops, special ops, air support, etc. You take off the stupid restrictions for our rules of engagement. Let them do what is necessary to root out and kill, not capture, these radicals.

Once there is a sense of calm, occupy those areas until there is stability. Help establish new government and help those areas until we are happy that the new government will be able to thwart any Radical resistance.Insist, just like here, that there is equal representation of all ethnic regimes. For that area, it would mean inclusions of Shiite, Sunni, Kurds, and Christians.Insist that laws are passed and a Constitution is draw to protect the rights of all members of their society.

Insist on the outlaw of Sharia Law. It's not conducive to a free society. Its Radical and teaches the subordinate behavior of women and abuse of women

Help build up infrastructure through partnerships with Western businesses and local businesses. Create jobs and help create an environment conducive to a growing economy. Educate the masses. Promote free speech and expression.


We left Iraq too soon and Obamas decision to pull out without guaranteeing the regional stability is the reason we see this now. We can't make that mistake again
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This, if I were going with the military interventionalist route, is what I would do. Military action won't work without boots on the ground. Boots on the ground won't work unless take the kid gloves off. ISIS does have a semi-conventional ground force that can be wiped out. Rooting out the chicken-**** bastards that want to hide would take creating occupation zones, and it would take time. The only way I would want to consider boots on the ground though, is that RUssia, France, and the rest of the EU be on the same page, and also contribute.
 
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