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#351
#351
Hate that Loy leaving however he’s the perfect representation of the team was this season. lights out to start the year but from game 2 of A&M on they struggled. If he wasn’t the Last contributor (assuming Bargo, Reece and Pebs are gone) from the Natty Team I’d be more indifferent but it is what it is
 
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Vols330 said:
I was curious to see if Loy could make the Zander jump to starter next year.
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If he was used more. Not saying something that everyone already doesn't know. He was not getting consistent reps. The coming on for 2 pitches does not do anything for any of them. He was fantastic in the SEC championship game last year. I really hate to see him go. Wonderful kid and family.
 
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preacherman20 said:
Love DLoy. Not everyone can handle being a Kirby type pitcher coming in to get the out or finish an inning and be gone. It takes a lot of understanding. Wish him such great success.
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I do as well, he represented UT as well as could be expected I think.

Although I will say, it seemed like the bullpen/overall pitching usage this season was a little confusing at times to say the least. Far be it from me to question coach Anderson or Tony V. However, some of the decisions this year were baffling as a fan, and I can't help but think downright frustrating at a player level.
 
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Pitching is a little bit like golf ... it is not always pretty ... to watch or play.
Pitchers and golfers ... do not always have your "good" stuff ... which limits your effectiveness. (As a catcher, I often told the coach to replace the guy on the mound.)
Some holes do not "fit your eye" that is why pitchers are pulled, right vs left or power vs junk ... sometimes the match up is just not good! (My brother cannot fade the ball, hates dogleg right. We had a pitcher who could not get a lefty out. Ever!)
If you are in a groove, then you roll and go with it ... until it goes away ... then, you grind and hope you make the cut ... more often than not ... you sit and watch. (Some pitchers cannot accept that they do not have it.)
The difference between "on" and "off" is huge. Sometimes, it is just fluky. Spaun hit the perfect shot and it hit the pin on #2, on #3 his tee shot bounced into a bad lie in the rough, and on #4 his ball hits a rake and goes into the rough. Bogey, Bogey, Par.

For coaches, it is more like Texas Hold 'Em ... you gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. AND EVERYBODY second guesses your choices when it does not work out ... on the golf course and on the ball field.
 
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I have respect for both of these guys. But what do you guys see as the difference between DLoy leaving to be a starter which all have said is a good thing and Chase Burns leaving to be a starter again which most of you guys called a traitor.
If you don't know, I know them personally. Chase was Kirby's roommate his last year here and they spent a lot of time together and last year I ate almost every meal at Omaha with DLoy as he and Kirby were great friends including that last lunch of championships.
I hope they both have success and understand both of them leaving to fulfill their goals. Wondering the difference. Because both of them are great young men in their own ways.
 
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#364
Has anyone seen an update on Aiden Robbins (Seton Hall) after his visit? Wondering if we are still looking good on that one or if another team is now trending.
 
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preacherman20 said:
I have respect for both of these guys. But what do you guys see as the difference between DLoy leaving to be a starter which all have said is a good thing and Chase Burns leaving to be a starter again which most of you guys called a traitor.
If you don't know, I know them personally. Chase was Kirby's roommate his last year here and they spent a lot of time together and last year I ate almost every meal at Omaha with DLoy as he and Kirby were great friends including that last lunch of championships.
I hope they both have success and understand both of them leaving to fulfill their goals. Wondering the difference. Because both of them are great young men in their own ways.
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I think rumors got started with Burns and people ran with them and it sort of poisoned the waterhole.
 
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preacherman20 said:
I have respect for both of these guys. But what do you guys see as the difference between DLoy leaving to be a starter which all have said is a good thing and Chase Burns leaving to be a starter again which most of you guys called a traitor.
If you don't know, I know them personally. Chase was Kirby's roommate his last year here and they spent a lot of time together and last year I ate almost every meal at Omaha with DLoy as he and Kirby were great friends including that last lunch of championships.
I hope they both have success and understand both of them leaving to fulfill their goals. Wondering the difference. Because both of them are great young men in their own ways.
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Because Burns was a starter and wasn't great and when we needed him to help in bullpen and closeout games, he got mad and left. Akin to taking his ball and going home bc he didn't get his way. He put himself above the team is the way it came off.

Loy never was a starter and we can understand him wanting to have that opportunity to see if he can do it and succeed. He did what was asked of him but just wanted a chance he prob wasn’t going to get here.
 
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I love D Loy and always wish the best for the local kids and don’t blame him for seeking out a better opportunity. I think as the season wore on it became obvious he wasn’t a SEC arm and would only be used in situational times here.
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
Because Burns was a starter and wasn't great and when we needed him to help in bullpen and closeout games, he got mad and left. Akin to taking his ball and going home bc he didn't get his way. He put himself above the team is the way it came off.

Loy never was a starter and we can understand him wanting to have that opportunity to see if he can do it and succeed. He did what was asked of him but just wanted a chance he prob wasn’t going to get here.
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I would swear that Chase pitched in playoffs and got us to Omaha out of the bullpen. I would also definitely argue the statement that the Chase was not a good starter. He struggled, they moved into the bullpen, and helped get us to Omaha., and got bad advice. Both guys made a choice that they thought was best for them and all I can ever do is wish a guy the best who does What he thinks is right.
 
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I will agree that there were some on here that spread rumors that Chase was not a good teammate and as always that is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, he gave his best as long as he wore the uniform and that is all I can ever ask. Guys will come and guys will go in today’s game and there will be very few stay the whole Time.
 
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#371
preacherman20 said:
I would swear that Chase pitched in playoffs and got us to Omaha out of the bullpen. I would also definitely argue the statement that the Chase was not a good starter. He struggled, they moved into the bullpen, and helped get us to Omaha., and got bad advice. Both guys made a choice that they thought was best for them and all I can ever do is wish a guy the best who does What he thinks is right.
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Obviously you have a lot more personal insight but there's quite clearly a difference. Burns was going to start, Tony did him a favor sending him to the pen temporarily. 0 percent chance he wasn't starting on Fridays or Saturdays the following season. Loy was never going to start. Fans are forgiving to those who don't play much and seek opportunity. Much less so to a superstar who has and would have had plenty of opportunity and leaves.

But we got a Natty without him so his loss. He was going to make millions either way.
 
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preacherman20 said:
I would swear that Chase pitched in playoffs and got us to Omaha out of the bullpen. I would also definitely argue the statement that the Chase was not a good starter. He struggled, they moved into the bullpen, and helped get us to Omaha., and got bad advice. Both guys made a choice that they thought was best for them and all I can ever do is wish a guy the best who does What he thinks is right.
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He did pitch out of the bullpen, not disputing that, but when he realized that's where CTV was going to prob keep him, he left. I was saying, he had a chance at starter and wasn't great but got mad the coaches moved him. His stats that year as a starter were not very good. As a closer, lights out. So most feel he put himself above the team and his latest comments about us winning the Natty, more or less proves it.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Obviously you have a lot more personal insight but there's quite clearly a difference. Burns was going to start, Tony did him a favor sending him to the pen temporarily. 0 percent chance he wasn't starting on Fridays or Saturdays the following season. Loy was never going to start. Fans are forgiving to those who don't play much and seek opportunity. Much less so to a superstar who has and would have had plenty of opportunity and leaves.

But we got a Natty without him so his loss. He was going to make millions either way.
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Why was it a "zero percent chance he wasn't starting on Fridays or Saturdays the following season" if he wasn't starting at the end of the previous season and in '21? Why would he take that chance? He left, became a guaranteed starter and he was the #2 pick in the draft, signing a record contract.

I'd say that it worked out well for both parties and they both achieved their ultimate goals.

I don't see a difference with the Loy situation. I think that people are just upset because Burns was so damn good. At least he didn't transfer to another SEC team.
 
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iVolSoHard said:
Why was it a "zero percent chance he wasn't starting on Fridays or Saturdays the following season" if he wasn't starting at the end of the previous season and in '21? Why would he take that chance? He left, became a guaranteed starter and he was the #2 pick in the draft, signing a record contract.

I'd say that it worked out well for both parties and they both achieved their ultimate goals.

I don't see a difference with the Loy situation. I think that people are just upset because Burns was so damn good. At least he didn't transfer to another SEC team.
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Are you really going to make the argument the #2 pick in the draft wasn't going to start for us last year? He only got demoted bc he had a rough stretch. He clearly was going to. The 3rd spot was a rotating door.

Sure it worked out. But yes there's a difference. Like I said superstar players leaving draw a much more negative reaction than someone who pitches an inning at a time out of the bullpen once or twice a week. No one cares Kaleb Webb left in football but Nico was kinda a big deal. Same thing.

Not to say I wanted Loy to leave I think he was a great lefty to have out of the pen.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Are you really going to make the argument the #2 pick in the draft wasn't going to start for us last year? He only got demoted bc he had a rough stretch. He clearly was going to. The 3rd spot was a rotating door.

Sure it worked out. But yes there's a difference. Like I said superstar players leaving draw a much more negative reaction than someone who pitches an inning at a time out of the bullpen once or twice a week. No one cares Kaleb Webb left in football but Nico was kinda a big deal. Same thing.
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Ironically, Kaleb Webb has acted way more bitter towards Tennessee than Nico... it's kind of weird
 
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