Poll: Can Butch Get It Done

Will Butch get it done here?

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#76
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I dont think Butch can get it done. He has done a good job of restocking UT with talent. And he has won some decent games, but all in all, Butch has been a mediocre coach. He has shown that he squanders talent. He consistently gets outcoached by mediocre coaches and has yet to field a quality OL unit since he has been here.

I dont think Butch will ever win the East, the SEC or a NC.
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Why???? He recruits better than Fulmer and he's got better coaches in all positions except Maybe OC .. Coach Cutt was awesome
 
#77
#77
1chattyvols1 said:
For all of you Negas and Anti-Butch nay sayers who are constantly thinking and saying he can't get it done, here is your chance to see if you are in the majority.

For all of you Pumpers and Butch is the greatest claiming the Negas represent a minority when it comes to saying Butch can't get it done, here is your chance to see if you are in the majority.

For everyone and everyone else, as far as I can tell, we don't have an official poll related to the opinion of this message board regarding the thoughts pertaining to Butch's ability to get it done. Maybe, just maybe for a change we can begin to have threads that don't have "fahr Butch" or "Butch can't get it done" or anything else related to those two opinions!
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You have got to be freaking kidding me...
 

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#78
#78
Wildasamink16 said:
He will cat ! Or he won't! But until he's not our coach he is and has my support! And as sure as you are that he won't! I'm as sure he will
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That's the same crap all the dooley supporters used to say. (Butch is way better than Dooley ever even thought about being as a coach). I'm just not convinced that butch is the guy to lead the vols to championships. I hope I'm wrong but this year should be very telling in what we have with Butch from here on out.
 
#79
#79
sjt18 said:
How much time?

Imagine you take your car to a mechanic and he fixes a problem for you... but the problem isn't completely fixed and starts to get worse again after a few days. So you take it back and the same thing happens. Again you take it back... same thing.

How long do you keep doing the same thing expecting a different result?
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If your car was a piece of junk with multiple problems, it will take several trips to get it all fixed. If you only have one problem to fix, your mechanic can concentrate on only that issue. Not the best example!
 
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Behr said:
I have no idea what you're talking about.

You still need work on your skills. I noticed your light came on within a few minutes of your other going out. Lol, that's just :crazy:
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my point is this..this post is just like my post last week. most fans are wondering the same thing..it should not be a surprise the question gets re-posted. you keep call all the posters trolls.. why is that..there are about 25% of fans that want Jones canned. i am not in that camp,but you could see a lot more Jones bashing as the season gets under way.. all these posters are not trolling. you have a crack in the fan base created by a poor season. that crack will widen until we win the east. your going to be seeing trolls in your sleep if we get of to a bad start.:crazy:
 
#82
#82
utvols74 said:
The real question is.....

At what point/game in this season will we know CBJ IS or ISN'T the answer? He's had time and I believe the jury will finally render a verdict.

For me, it is his record up to and include the UGA game.
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After the USCe game. The rest of the schedule will be proof, either way.
 
#83
#83
we could lose all three games with a good team. 2 are on the road and GA will be a nail bitter. what will that do for Butch. then you have Bama,LSU, and KY ..2 out of 3 on the road..
 
#84
#84
Since many used Saban as the gold standard of football coaches, here is a little history on his career: He was hired as head coach at mid major Toledo and finished 9-2 and conference co-champion. Went to NFL as Def Cord. Hired at Mich St and went 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5. For his 4th year, the Spartans upset the No. 1 ranked Ohio State 28–24 at Ohio Stadium. However, even after the upset and an early-season rout of then-highly ranked Notre Dame the Spartans finished 6–6, including three last-minute losses featuring turnovers, defensive lapses, and special-teams misplays, and failed to earn a bowl invitation. In his 6th year as HC at Mich St he went 9-2 beating all of the "big" teams on their schedule, but he also lost to (at that time) lowly Purdue and Wisc.

I'm am never going to predict CBJ to be better or even equal to Saban, but there is no way Saban would be allowed to be the HC at TENN with those kind of records, IF you didn't know he was going to learn and improve. Yes, I said coaches do learn and improve.

I don't think any nega Jones person can honestly argue that they would have kept Saban but fired Jones based on their records the first 4 years of their D1 career.
 
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buckfama said:
You didn't express it as opinion.. you expressed it as a fact... Like you know something the rest of us don't. Doesn't matter how you look at the App. State game.. it was a win.. Just like VT, Florida, Ga, and 5 other teams. Not forgiving or forgetting SC or Vandy losses, but we DID win 9.. with locker room issues (Hurd and losing O'Brien), friction among the defensive assistant coaches, and injuries. You say yeah yeah injuries, but they happened. You can't say that it didn't affect the team. At one point we we're using DE's for DT's. Down to not second but 3rd string at times. Don't you think that would affect how the defense plays as a unit?

Not making excuses for Butch, he doesn't need me to defend him but those are all facts.. they happened. I feel Butch actually did pretty well holding things together. Could have been worse.
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Just like the 2002 season when we were riddled with all of those injuries?

What's the excuse(s) for the '15 Fla, Arky and Okla games?

Not trying to argue but Butch seems to display patterns that he loses games he should win. I hope all of that is behind him and he is able to finally get it together and have it complete. Guess we'll find out.
 
#86
#86
a vol n tears said:
Since many used Saban as the gold standard of football coaches, here is a little history on his career: He was hired as head coach at mid major Toledo and finished 9-2 and conference co-champion. Went to NFL as Def Cord. Hired at Mich St and went 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5. For his 4th year, the Spartans upset the No. 1 ranked Ohio State 28–24 at Ohio Stadium. However, even after the upset and an early-season rout of then-highly ranked Notre Dame the Spartans finished 6–6, including three last-minute losses featuring turnovers, defensive lapses, and special-teams misplays, and failed to earn a bowl invitation. In his 6th year as HC at Mich St he went 9-2 beating all of the "big" teams on their schedule, but he also lost to (at that time) lowly Purdue and Wisc.

I'm am never going to predict CBJ to be better or even equal to Saban, but there is no way Saban would be allowed to be the HC at TENN with those kind of records, IF you didn't know he was going to learn and improve. Yes, I said coaches do learn and improve.

I don't think any nega Jones person can honestly argue that they would have kept Saban but fired Jones based on their records the first 4 years of their D1 career.
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Problem is both CMU and Cincy are FBS / D1 schools.

This isn't year 5 for Butch. It's year 11.
 
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#87
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1chattyvols1 said:
Just like the 2002 season when we were riddled with all of those injuries?

What's the excuse(s) for the '15 Fla, Arky and Okla games?

Not trying to argue but Butch seems to display patterns that he loses games he should win. I hope all of that is behind him and he is able to finally get it together and have it complete. Guess we'll find out.
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I agree.. there have been losses that shouldn't have happened. O honestly think Butch is learning on the job. We all do to some degree.

Injuries happen and can affect teams in different ways. We didn't lose every d lineman at one point to another that season though. Everything on the D runs through there.
 
#88
#88
Wylo said:
Yes, let's just give him a decade to win the east.. Maybe by then he'll do it once.
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Smh... because hiring a new head coach solves all the problems? It's worked out great in the past for us..It's worked out for UGA, Texas, USC and LSU. All of those top tier programs just started winning championships right away... You right.

sjt18 said:
How much time?

Imagine you take your car to a mechanic and he fixes a problem for you... but the problem isn't completely fixed and starts to get worse again after a few days. So you take it back and the same thing happens. Again you take it back... same thing.

How long do you keep doing the same thing expecting a different result?
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I'd say as long as he's not going 6-6,7-5. Give him 8 years to get to Atlanta. I'm not happy with settling as much as the next VOL fan but sometimes to get to a certain point you have to keep on keepin' on.

Butch is making the changes. If he was set in some ways that just were not working and he was not going to change anything then I could understand. Butch has proven that he will make changes in his staff to get the job done. Also recruits and his players love him.

How do you expect a man to figure it out without a little time? This isn't peewee football. He's going against the very best week in and week out... Yes we are Tennessee(I get that) we expect to win and win big.

Unless we hire Jon Gruden and get every other 5star in the nation like Bama to come strap up for us, we can't expect to play like them year in an out.

Give the man a chance. I believe the man will get us there if we give him some time. He is a proven winner and he's done a pretty good job so far believe it or not.
 
#94
#94
HoptownVol said:
Bullseye!
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Lol no comparison! None between Butch and Dooley! Butch is winning like the 9 win seasons and bowl games that hadn't been done in like 10 years ! Dooley was losing games that hadn't been lost since Pearl Harbor! And the Hatfields and McCoy's and Columbus discovering America
 
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#95
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ajvol01 said:
Problem is both CMU and Cincy are FBS / D1 schools.

This isn't year 5 for Butch. It's year 11.
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The point is still valid though - insert Tennessee instead of Michigan State - some of you would have fired Saban after those seasons.

Coaches do learn.
 
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#96
#96
Some of you make this all about and only about the coach.

You can have the best coach ever but if you don't have the talent to compete chances are you still lose.

The question in my mind is really whether you believe the players that are on team 121, 122, etc. are talented enough to compete in the SEC. And do you believe they want it bad enough to put in the work it takes to be the strongest, fastest, etc. team they can be? And if they do that, will they be strong and fast enough to win? And will that translate to how they execute the plays on the field?

A lot of the issues last year was due to endurance and execution on the field of play. Yes injuries had a part in that. There was also attitude problems with some players. That too can derail team chemistry.

These players seem much more focused this off season.

When you vote "no" in polls like this remember you are also saying that these players can't get it done. I happen to believe in them and their ability to win.

And I don't know why we can't concentrate on that and show these players we are behind them 200% rather than always forcing the dialogue to be negative bashing of a coach that they obviously believe in.
 
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#97
#97
volfan_89 said:
Oh look it's this thread again
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200.webp


...waiting for football season to arrive.
 
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#98
#98
How bout a simple yes or no instead of spliting the results? I dont think CBJ is a very good football coach, but i alsp dont care because im for Tennessee regardless of who the coach is.
 
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#99
#99
volfannbama said:
How bout a simple yes or no instead of spliting the results? I dont think CBJ is a very good football coach, but i alsp dont care because im for Tennessee regardless of who the coach is.
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Lol, definitely a cop.
"You either crossed the yellow line or you didn't.. I don't want to complicate things by discussing the pedestrian that was walking too close to the road".

Some people really are unsure VFB. Besides, from the op, he was wanting to find out if the claim is true.. There are posters here that have guaranteed Jones can't get it done but often claim they represent how half the fanbase feel. I've even seen some claim the majority.
It's just not true or even close.
 
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#100
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chargervol said:
Lol, definitely a cop.
"You either crossed the yellow line or you didn't.. I don't want to complicate things by discussing the pedestrian that was walking too close to the road".

Some people really are unsure VFB. Besides, from the op, he was wanting to find out if the claim is true.. There are posters here that have guaranteed Jones can't get it done but often claim they represent how half the fanbase feel. I've even seen some claim the majority.
It's just not true or even close.
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The majority of Tennessee fans are not on this site. Also, most people on here are Vols fans, except for the few bama and florida fans that cant visit their teams site because the rest of the fanbase isnt fluent in english. So i would assume nearly everyone on here could fit in the dont care, im for Tennessee camp. Also, most of us are unsure if he can get it done. So folks need to quite being a wuss and vote on wether you think he can or cant. Lol

For the cop stuff, i worked in a traffic unit for several years, wrote several thousand tickets and wrote exactly 0 crossing the center line tickets. Also, never wrote a seat belt ticket, window tint ticket or motorcycle helmet ticket. Lots of speeding, dl, and running a red light. But i cant stand when people use a turn land as a merge lane, maybe its just me.
 
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