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#76
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n_huffhines said:
The point has always been that the Clippers are not a deep team at all. There is no point in arguing with you. I make a point and in the very next post I reiterate the point and you act like I'm trying to change the subject.

I can't believe you would trade Morrow and Dre for Barnes and Redick. They are better than them right now, and younger. Crawford is just Waiters. You already have him.
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Lol sure thing and OKC only had 2 injuries. You didn't make a point, your argument is the playoffs, when in the past you've said the playoffs don't determine a players value. I explain why OKC didnt make it and i get "cool argument" Keep it up and I'll OSP you azz.

We are talking about this year, and this year I would trade them. JJ had the better season and Dre was hurt 15 games plus his jump shot is dreadful. Long term I'm keeping Dre and Morrow, but i thought we were discussing this year. Oh I'd trade Waiters before anybody, that step back 19 footer drives me mad.
 
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#77
#77
Have I mentioned how much I hate Waiters? Cause I really hate Waiters, if we keep him a few years he may eclipse Ray Allen...who am I kidding **** Ray Allen
 
#78
#78
n_huffhines said:
BTW, Griffin missed 15 games and they went 9-6 with Hawes replacing him. That may not seem like that great of an accomplishment, but they played a crazy difficult schedule during that stretch. OKC was the 3rd worst team they faced. Take Griffin and CP3 will still get to the playoffs.
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To small of a sample size...remember?
 
#89
#89
Atlanta Hawks all the way.

No Hawks player scored over 30 points in a game this season. Per Elias, thats never happened with a 50+ win team. The Hawks won 60.
 
#90
#90
BadJerry20 said:
your argument is the playoffs, when in the past you've said the playoffs don't determine a players value.
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You have a really hard time following my arguments. I'll make it easy on you.

The argument was that CP3 is still the best PG.

That he led a shallow roster to the 3 seed is simply a point in favor of CP3. I never said "playoffs determine value" (whatever that means). Play determines value.

For some reason you are bringing up Kevin Love, in attempt to catch me in some sort of inconsistency. All I ever said in that argument is that missing the playoffs doesn't disqualify you from the MVP conversation. I have not disqualified Russ for missing the playoffs. If you make logical conclusions based on things that are said, not things you imagined, then you won't bring up as many meaningless points.

I didn't even mention Westbrook and you are claiming that I said his team "counts against him". I only brought up OKC to illustrate the point that good, deep teams miss the playoffs, and the Clippers didn't. That being said, I think OKC wins 55+ games with CP3.

You're much too sensitive about Westbrook. If you are going to make up my points for me, just go argue with your reflection.
 
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#91
#91
Cp3 would've been done for the year if he broke his damn face like Russ did
 
#92
#92
apevol said:
Cp3 would've been done for the year if he broke his damn face like Russ did
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Russ is a warrior, no doubt. CP3 is less likely to break his face cause he plays a controlled game. Russ is out of control, which is both good and bad.
 
#93
#93
n_huffhines said:
You have a really hard time following my arguments. I'll make it easy on you.

The argument was that CP3 is still the best PG.

That he led a shallow roster to the 3 seed is simply a point in favor of CP3. I never said "playoffs determine value" (whatever that means). Play determines value.

For some reason you are bringing up Kevin Love, in attempt to catch me in some sort of inconsistency. All I ever said in that argument is that missing the playoffs doesn't disqualify you from the MVP conversation. I have not disqualified Russ for missing the playoffs. If you make logical conclusions based on things that are said, not things you imagined, then you won't bring up as many meaningless points.

I didn't even mention Westbrook and you are claiming that I said his team "counts against him". I only brought up OKC to illustrate the point that good, deep teams miss the playoffs, and the Clippers didn't. That being said, I think OKC wins 55+ games with CP3.

You're much too sensitive about Westbrook. If you are going to make up my points for me, just go argue with your reflection.
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The argument wasn't about CP3 being the best PG. I just made an off hand comment about those 2 easily being the best. If you could read in a post with Gahlee I said Russ might be third but its a close 3rd. Pay attention

I never said they were not a shallow team. But due to injuries so was the Thunder. Ish Smith and Lance Thomas started games for them. The Clippers by a wide margin lost less starter games than OKC. Try winning games with a different starting lineup every 4th night.

The MVP absolutely has to make the playoffs,to think otherwise is dumb.

You brought up OKC while talking about PGs, but wasn't talking about Russ? Lol ok I say OKC misses the playoffs with Paul, they need a scoring PG with all their injuries and moving parts.

Your points? Like how deep OKC is and only had 2 injuries? I'm sensitive about Russ but I only had to say 3 words to get a paragraph about CP3. I never said a negative thing about him this whole time, I only pointed out OKCs injuries. Yet you continue to babble about him.

Honestly this whole argument is dumb as h*ll. My only contention is that injuries and player turnover had a lot to do with OKC missing the playoffs. I explained it over and over again. I haven't argued Russ is better or worse. That argument is 100% in your mind. You just made an untrue statement with the 2 injuries comment, that I corrected. Yet you couldn't let it go, cause heaven horbid you are wrong.
 
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#94
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n_huffhines said:
Russ is a warrior, no doubt. CP3 is less likely to break his face cause he plays a controlled game. Russ is out of control, which is both good and bad.
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You are right, but that wasn't really a crazy Russ thing he got kneed on a freak play. That being said the way he plays scares the ish out of me, he needs to dial it back or he'll be falling apart by the time he's 32 like Wade was/is.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
You are right, but that wasn't really a crazy Russ thing he got kneed on a freak play. That being said the way he plays scares the ish out of me, he needs to dial it back or he'll be falling apart by the time he's 32 like Wade was/is.
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I don't think Russ' game will age well. It's not a detriment to him, but his game relies so much on athleticism, speed, agility, and lateral quickness.
 
#97
#97
gordonr24 said:
I don't think Russ' game will age well. It's not a detriment to him, but his game relies so much on athleticism, speed, agility, and lateral quickness.
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I agree 100%. He'll have a great career, but it'll be cut short if he doesn't change his style some. You can't be 150 mph all the time and not break down eventually.
 
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