Philip Fulmer will be involved in the coach searching

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armchair said:
Fulmer's opinion will matter--and it should, to an extent--but let's not not pretend that he will have any penetrating insight that will help us land the perfect coach. Everyone knows the basics of what is desired in a new coach--and nobody has a clue how things will actually work out with any particular guy. Who would have picked Fulmer to succeed Majors--I certainly wouldn't have--and who would have expected him to succeed as he did, for the first several years? Nothing but serendipity--chance. Yea, if you can get a guy with Saban's background, you increase the chances of success--and that's really how Fulmer could help. If Currie and the boosters and other advisors (Manning, others) settle on a couple of /established/ coaches, Fulmer could try to persuade those guys to give our offer serious consideration--especially if he knows them. Otherwise, Fulmer has been out of the game for a decade and so I doubt will have much to offer when it comes to coordinators or lesser-known candidates.
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First off, Phil and Peyton will have a big say so on who the prospective coaches. Secondly, I would be very very shocked if Phil and Peyton aren't in any second interview with a prospective coach that makes it past an intro interview with Currie to gauge interest.

I don't see UT going low money for a coach. Phil and Peyton are smart enough to make sure that doesn't happen.
 
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Currie works for Dipietro. I doubt this would sit well with Currie unless it's his choice. Premature article. There's not even an opening yet.
 
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Phil and Peyton are only involved if Currie wants them involved. So if they are involved, they fully support Currie's path. If they are on the sidelines, they don't support his path or actually were never really engaged. So maybe Phil's and Peyton's involvement or lack thereof are the best "tea leaves" out there for how we should be reading things.

Unfortunately, they seem to be a little too much on the sideline right now for my comfort. But maybe that's just the calm before the storm. Time will tell.
 
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Hyams was saying yesterday that Fulmer’s input may contribute to Butch staying on until seasons end. He didn’t appreciate the way he was let go with games remaining and doesn’t want Butch to go through the same thing. Allegedly Currie feels the same way after watching Fulmer’s during go down first hand.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Oh dear god...So that means we will be getting someone who will work like heck...Go ahead and shoot me now.
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Fulmer was instrumental in ETSU hiring Torbush. They aren’t world beaters but for a program in year 3 they are competitive and have upset some teams on their level. Fulmer is well respected in coaching circles. His input can’t be under valued.
 
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The good thing about Fulmer being involved is that outside of a few disgruntled Vol fans and grudge holding Bams fans is that he has a likeable personality and is still respected by his peers. While at some schools you can have toxic situations like at Wisconsin with Alvarez, ultimately you won’t have an AD meddling with you schematically.

For example, Fulmer and Gruden have always had a good relationship. I’m not saying Gruden is coming, but Fulmer is the best choice to vouch for the support a new coach would have, negotiate on the university’s behalf: considering that he is out there selling the program he loves dearly despite the way it ended for him.
 
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I pray that Fulmer has a say. And to those that hate CPF, I would take him over Butch every day of the week, and twice on Saturdays.
 
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TN_Transplant said:
I pray that Fulmer has a say. And to those that hate CPF, I would take him over Butch every day of the week, and twice on Saturdays.
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Well they are both going to have similar records in their last season. Only difference is that butch has been here only 5 years. Fulmer was here over a decade. You obviously didn’t watch the Wyoming game or any of his pitiful last season.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Hyams was saying yesterday that Fulmer’s input may contribute to Butch staying on until seasons end. He didn’t appreciate the way he was let go with games remaining and doesn’t want Butch to go through the same thing. Allegedly Currie feels the same way after watching Fulmer’s during go down first hand.
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If this is true, then all the threads calling for Currie to be fired because he hasn't fired Jones yet should be redirected to firing Fulmer from his advisory position.
 
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vettefool said:
You obviously didn’t watch the Wyoming ame or any of his pitiful last season.
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You'd be wrong. And Butch will be damn lucky to get to 5-7.

Fulmer's biggest sin was in the way he tried to work the fan base and the administration. He was bringing in the recruits needed to run the new style offense. You can just look at Clemson to see where he was going.

Clemson is where Tennessee would have been at this point if we hadn't got screwed by Kiffin.

Go back and see where the recruits that Kiffin run off went, and see what they looked like in 3 years.
 
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volfanecs said:
Sorry, you are right. Who needs a coach with a 152-52 record and NC and Hall of Fame. We need to run out and hire a young, brash....oh wait.
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He earned his HOF status as a coach here with his winning %. He had some good years, but as a matter of FACT, he never had the Vols in national contention after the 2001 SECCG. NEVER. Had we not won the 98 NC, he would have been fired after that awful 2002 season that was chock block full of NFL starters.

The guy is right. NO one of any significance gave him a sniff after he was fired here. There's a reason for that and it's not that he didn't want to coach anymore.
 
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orangeluvr said:
Total BS post. Why bother! Fulmer was the reason Tennessee dominated the 90s. :yes:
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We dominated the 90s? Pretty sure everybody outside of the Vol fanbase would say Florida dominated the SEC in the 90s. They had 3 more conference titles and Spurrier held a 6-2 advantage head to head and that is counting the win he got subbing for Johnny.
 
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TN_Transplant said:
You'd be wrong. And Butch will be damn lucky to get to 5-7.

Fulmer's biggest sin was in the way he tried to work the fan base and the administration. He was bringing in the recruits needed to run the new style offense. You can just look at Clemson to see where he was going.

Clemson is where Tennessee would have been at this point if we hadn't got screwed by Kiffin.

Go back and see where the recruits that Kiffin run off went, and see what they looked like in 3 years.
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Nothing by empty speculation
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Hyams was saying yesterday that Fulmer’s input may contribute to Butch staying on until seasons end. He didn’t appreciate the way he was let go with games remaining and doesn’t want Butch to go through the same thing. Allegedly Currie feels the same way after watching Fulmer’s during go down first hand.
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If I was Butch, I would much rather be fired now than strung along week to week with all the fans calling for my head.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
TN_Transplant said:
dobre_shunka said:
Does that reflect on his judgement when it comes to advising on the hiring a new coach that it took him 7 years to realize Sanders was in way over his head?
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And Randy Sanders went on to win another NC as QB coach and CO-Offensive coordinator, so apparently there was something to see there.

And I'd take Randy Sanders (who I can't stand, by the way, knew him when he was in High School) right now as our OC. He'd do a better job than what we've seen this year so far.
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114VOL said:
Nothing by empty speculation
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Go back and see where the recruits that Kiffin run off went, and see what they looked like in 3 years.

Do that then come talk to me about "empty speculation".

Go see where the recruits we used to get during the Fulmer years are going now, and then come talk to me about "empty speculation".

I've done my homework, have you?
 
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TN_Transplant said:
I pray that Fulmer has a say. And to those that hate CPF, I would take him over Butch every day of the week, and twice on Saturdays.
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I like Phillip, but he allowed the program to slide after that 2001 SECCG. Also, Fulmer didn't have to rebuild the entire team as Butch has had to do. Butch needs to go, but Fulmer certainly isn't the answer. The program has much more talent and depth now than it did at the end of 2008
 
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