Phil hasn't changed.........

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jennsd

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I've always supported Fulmer and really see nothing different from him than when he took over. He still recruits well and represents UT with class. I don't think I could ever call for him to be fired, however, I do wish he would step down gracefully.

Here's my problem. There was a time when our D could actually be expected to stop someone. We would have a bad half but Chavis knew how to make adjustments to shut people down the 2nd half. No more! I'm just holding my breath every play. We're out of position, can't tackle and against good players we're a step slow which seems to be caused by a lack of confidence. Sometimes we look like we're playing "pin the tackle on the ball carrier".

Don't get me started on the subject of "special" teams.
 
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VolinArizona said:
What do you expect? 60 year old men don't change much, if at all.
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That Arizona sun baked your head? :lolabove:
Spurrier is 62. Miles is 54. Saban is 56. Bryant was in his 60s when he learned the wishbone and proceeded to dominate the 1970s.
 
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jennsd said:
Here's my problem. There was a time when our D could actually be expected to stop someone. We would have a bad half but Chavis knew how to make adjustments to shut people down the 2nd half. No more! I'm just holding my breath every play. We're out of position, can't tackle and against good players we're a step slow which seems to be caused by a lack of confidence. Sometimes we look like we're playing "pin the tackle on the ball carrier".
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Under Chavis, Tennessee has historically always had a stout defense. Year after year, Chavis has successfully been able to reload the ranks. The man is a hell of a defensive coach. He has one bad year, and everyone calls for his head; forgetting how many years a Chavis defensive has saved our offense's A$$.

Give me a break. :rtfm:
 
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Fayettevol said:
That Arizona sun baked your head? :lolabove:
Spurrier is 62. Miles is 54. Saban is 56. Bryant was in his 60s when he learned the wishbone and proceeded to dominate the 1970s.
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Spurrier runs the same offense he always has. And Bear Bryant is one of the best coaches of all time. There are exceptions to every rule.
 
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I wouldn't put Miles in the same leauge as Spurrier and Bryant. Right now Miles is winning the same way Fulmer did in the 90s, in my opinion, by having completely dominating talent. I am really looking forward to watching the LSU-UF game for the sole reason that I think both of those teams have incredible talent. I give LSU the edge on experience and UF the edge on coaching. I will say that the fake field goal call against Spurrier was awesome and if Miles can keep up that kind of razzmatazz, coupled with dominating defense, my opinion of him will only go up.
 
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And will Saban and Miles and Meyer and Stoops et al cease being good coaches when they approach the big 6 Oh.
 
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SWIL said:
Tennessee has historically always had a stout defense. Year after year, Chavis has successfully been able to reload the ranks. The man is a hell of a defensive coach. He has one bad year, and everyone calls for his head; forgetting how many years a Chavis defensive has saved our offense's A$$.

Give me a break. :rtfm:
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Chavis' defenses have been steadily declining for the past few years. This year is just the ultimate fallout.
 
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I can't say the same for Phil- I still think highly of Chavis though...
 
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SWIL said:
Under Chavis, Tennessee has historically always had a stout defense. Year after year, Chavis has successfully been able to reload the ranks. The man is a hell of a defensive coach. He has one bad year, and everyone calls for his head; forgetting how many years a Chavis defensive has saved our offense's A$$.

Give me a break. :rtfm:
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With all due respect......BS

Statisically we have had good defenses, but for years we have been terrible at 3rd and long. We have always been prone to give up the big play

One bad year.......:birgits_giggle:

In the 90s, we had a couple of good Ds, but during the Manning years, we had to score a lot of points. We have only had a few defenses (actually players) who were sure tacklers. Poor tackling has ALWAYS been a problem for Chavis defenses.
 
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jennsd said:
I'm just holding my breath every play. We're out of position.........Don't get me started on the subject of "special" teams.
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I know the feeling. I was holding my breath so much the other night, I almost passed out.
 
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It could just be the fact that UT's defense is very young and the veterans that are there (Mayo, Mitchell, Hefney, and Karl) have not played up to their potential which in my opinion is not a reflection on the coach but rather on themselves. The coaches have to spend a lot of time on the newcomers this year and the seniors should be expected to handle themselves and provide good leadership and consistent play and have not done such.
 
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TennesseeT said:
It could just be the fact that UT's defense is very young and the veterans that are there (Mayo, Mitchell, Hefney, and Karl) have not played up to their potential which in my opinion is not a reflection on the coach but rather on themselves. The coaches have to spend a lot of time on the newcomers this year and the seniors should be expected to handle themselves and provide good leadership and consistent play and have not done such.
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A freshman and a couple of sophmores do not equal a young defense.
 
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It is not a good reflection of a coach who has been with a program 15 years to say that his unit is too young to compete. Whose responsibility was it to recruit and train the players during the past four years?
 
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truefan said:
With all due respect......BS

Statisically we have had good defenses, but for years we have been terrible at 3rd and long. We have always been prone to give up the big play

One bad year.......:birgits_giggle:

In the 90s, we had a couple of good Ds, but during the Manning years, we had to score a lot of points. We have only had a few defenses (actually players) who were sure tacklers. Poor tackling has ALWAYS been a problem for Chavis defenses.
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Amen brother. PREACH ON!!
 
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volinasheville said:
It is not a good reflection of a coach who has been with a program 15 years to say that his unit is too young to compete. Whose responsibility was it to recruit and train the players during the past four years?
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It's inexcusable to let the talent level drop so low you can't at least be a average sec defense. If it's chavis's fault then he should go. But i'am not sure how much chavis is involved in recruiting these days. Way things are he needs to get seriously involved in recruiting. It may already be to late.
 
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TennesseeT said:
It could just be the fact that UT's defense is very young and the veterans that are there (Mayo, Mitchell, Hefney, and Karl) have not played up to their potential which in my opinion is not a reflection on the coach but rather on themselves. The coaches have to spend a lot of time on the newcomers this year and the seniors should be expected to handle themselves and provide good leadership and consistent play and have not done such.
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the excuse has to got to die. Florida's D is even younger and it is not struggling nearly as much as the squad UT puts out.
 
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Fayettevol said:
. Bryant was in his 60s when he learned the wishbone and proceeded to dominate the 1970s.
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Bryant did something that lots of coaches seem to be unable to do, he EVOLVED WITH THE GAME. He saw the game moving towards the era of the Wishbone option, so he called (I believe, if i remember the book correctly, which is buried from moving and nowhere to be found) Darrell Royal, and sat in on a few practices, took a few notes, added some of his own twists, and went back to Tuscaloosa and worked like hell on implementing it.

Most coaches who stick around too long dont 'lose their touch', they just refuse to believe that what always worked in the past doesnt do the trick anymore.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
Most coaches who stick around too long dont 'lose their touch', they just refuse to believe that what always worked in the past doesnt do the trick anymore.
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I agree with this. The game is changing, and we are getting left behind.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I wouldn't put Miles in the same leauge as Spurrier and Bryant. Right now Miles is winning the same way Fulmer did in the 90s, in my opinion, by having completely dominating talent. I am really looking forward to watching the LSU-UF game for the sole reason that I think both of those teams have incredible talent. I give LSU the edge on experience and UF the edge on coaching. I will say that the fake field goal call against Spurrier was awesome and if Miles can keep up that kind of razzmatazz, coupled with dominating defense, my opinion of him will only go up.
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I also think the size of LSU players will dominate everyone this year...They are NFL size....
 
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SWIL said:
I can't say the same for Phil- I still think highly of Chavis though...
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You are entitled to your opinion, but when we give up almost 400 yards to a Sun-Belt team then you have issues. He's had since the Florida game LAST YEAR to try and fix some of these problems and they have since gotten worse.
 
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