Peyton Manning Coaching (merged)

#26
#26
i think the point though was more that the "greats" - the best of the best throughout the sport - most times don't come back to coach after their careers, and the ones that do usually don't do well with it

on the other hand, most of the good coaches you see - your Tony Dungy's, Bill Cowher's, Jeff Fisher's, Bill Bellicheck's, Urban Meyer's, Nick Saban's, Bob Stoop's, Mack Brown's, Pete Carroll's, etc - most of them, while players, weren't the best on field....some even less than average (Fisher and Cowher I believe both played special teams and that was about it);

the people that turn out to be the best coaches have been, quite more times than not, not the best players performing on the field, the all-time greats, or the all-stars

I do see your point. Maybe a QB coach would be perfect. There is such value in the name alone.
 
#29
#29
Did you ever watch Eric Crouch play at Nebraska? He was EVERYTHING to that team, and I thought he was incredible. Just because he didn't make it in the NFL doesn't mean he was a so-so.


He may have been critical to his team's success, but that doesn't make him "great."

Hawaii relied heavily on Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan. I guess those dudes are hall of famers.
 
#30
#30
Peyton's acting career has too bright a future...he might be slotted for a regular on SNL....that was too funny!
 
#31
#31
Can you imagine Peyton in the living room of some big recruits? What would you say if arguably the greatest football player in history said, "I would like you to play for me."
I'd ask him what he could do to make me a better player, and help me make the NFL, if I were to choose to play for him.

The same as I would ask any coach in such a circumstance.
 
#32
#32
Name one great player except Larry Bird who has been a successful coach. Most great coaches were role players or never played. I think Peyton would be too demanding of perfection.

Most coaches have playing experience
Turner Gill-Nebraska
Steve Spurrier-Florida
Lame Kiffin-Fresno St.:pepper:
 
#35
#35
Perhaps Dooley should take a dual roll as HC and AD, let Peyton come in as Quarterback coach for a year or two, then promote him.
 
#38
#38
Should stated my original point better. Great Pro players. Not kinda good or pretty good but great. Spurrier could be considered an exception. Every rule has one. A better test would be to list the top 10 Pro and College coaches in any sport. How many of them were great?

Not only do the greats demand perfection but many aspects of the game come very easy to them. The problem is they expect it to be just as easy for the players they coach.
 
#40
#40
How many times are we going to have this thread? There's a search button in the top corner. It's not that hard to use it. Seriously.
 
#41
#41
Most coaches have playing experience
Turner Gill-Nebraska
Steve Spurrier-Florida
Lame Kiffin-Fresno St.:pepper:

You really put Lane Kiffin - a complete scrub - in with a Heisman winner?

On another note - he basically coaches the best offense in the NFL now so hard for me to think he couldn't scheme a college offense as a OC - he wouldnt have to recruit any position but the QB - other coaches could recruit the rest
 
#43
#43
Should stated my original point better. Great Pro players. Not kinda good or pretty good but great. Spurrier could be considered an exception. Every rule has one. A better test would be to list the top 10 Pro and College coaches in any sport. How many of them were great?

Not only do the greats demand perfection but many aspects of the game come very easy to them. The problem is they expect it to be just as easy for the players they coach.

I repeat:

 
#46
#46
Then why be such a douchebag? If you dont like the topic, dont post. Its that simple.

If it was a once in a blue moon offense, then OK. But this happens ALL THE TIME. This forum is saturated with so many thread because people seem to think that their post is one that will inspire some sort of sweeping change, so they make another lame damn thread, making it impossible to find a good original thread from merely days ago. It's ridiculous, and whoever's paying the bills for the server must be the most benevolent person to have ever walked the earth. I bet there has been at least 5 different threads about Peyton being the coach since the start of the year. And the conclusion is ALWAYS the same one. It hasn't changed since the last thread, what makes anyone think it would have?
 
#47
#47
If it was a once in a blue moon offense, then OK. But this happens ALL THE TIME. This forum is saturated with so many thread because people seem to think that their post is one that will inspire some sort of sweeping change, so they make another lame damn thread, making it impossible to find a good original thread from merely days ago. It's ridiculous, and whoever's paying the bills for the server must be the most benevolent person to have ever walked the earth. I bet there has been at least 5 different threads about Peyton being the coach since the start of the year. And the conclusion is ALWAYS the same one. It hasn't changed since the last thread, what makes anyone think it would have?

Last time I checked, a forum is a place for DISCUSSION. Then why are you so tore up about it? Are you paying the bills for the server? If there is so many threads already, then Im sure this will get merged. So pop a Xanex and chill out and try to enjoy the near weekend thats right around the corner.
 
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#48
#48
My bad I didn't click the link first time. Great example. Too bad the football we're talking about here is played with an oblong ball and not a round one. Save that one for the soccer forum.

Hey, man, you said any sport. I gave you an example from one of the only three sports that matter. *ducks before baseball fans start attacking
 
#49
#49
Name one great player except Larry Bird who has been a successful coach. Most great coaches were role players or never played. I think Peyton would be too demanding of perfection.

Bill Russell, Cheryl Miller (womens bball), Frank Robinson, Larry Robinson, Mike Ditka, Dan Reeves, Tony Dungy, Bill Cowher, Chuck Noll, Dan Shula.

Some of those arent the greatest players but for the most part thats just a quick assesment of some pretty darn good players who turned into good coaches.

But you're right, just larry bird.
 
#50
#50
He may have been critical to his team's success, but that doesn't make him "great."

Hawaii relied heavily on Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan. I guess those dudes are hall of famers.

OK, so let me get this straight. You don't think Eric Crouch was a great football player? That just really surprises me. I wonder what other people think.
 
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