Peyton for Senator?

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Age 40ish, 3 senate terms, then a presidential run before age 60. I'll allow it. We do need more leaders with a decent value system, honorable, and who are not there to become millionaires by pleasing the interests of corporations and foreign donors. But, if he were going for the White House, then he should run for Governor and not get as polarized before a national election.

Just imagine what Butch could do with 5* recruits getting the President to drop in the back yard for a personal visit!
Although, I don't suggest using the campaign slogan "Drain The Swamp". That might come back to bite him. :birgits_giggle:
 
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What makes you so sure he would be honest?

We bring our problems upon ourselves when we elect people because they were good at football.

I went and looked it up for fun.....and was bipartisan about it.

Charles (Chuck) Schumer and Mitch McConnell have been in government for over 40 years.

They got their law degrees, hung around people of influence, got elected to some office and have been sucking on the peoples' teet ever since. Along the way, they have been elected to higher forms of office.

I'm not saying Peyton would be good, bad, whatever.

But, let's not pretend those who are "qualified" have been doing an outstanding job.....great job.....good job.....average job.... less than mediocre job.....bad job.

They've been doing a WTF job.
 
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I went and looked it up for fun.....and was bipartisan about it.

Charles (Chuck) Schumer and Mitch McConnell have been in government for over 40 years.

They got their law degrees, hung around people of influence, got elected to some office and have been sucking on the peoples' teet ever since. Along the way, they have been elected to higher forms of office.

I'm not saying Peyton would be good, bad, whatever.

But, let's not pretend those who are "qualified" have been doing an outstanding job.....great job.....good job.....average job.... less than mediocre job.....bad job.

They've been doing a WTF job.
If there is an effective way to differentiate someone's values based on what their background was prior to entering politics, I could get behind that...but I don't see how that would be possible. Given the choice between someone who has experience in politics and accomplished positive things at his prior position and someone who was charismatic and helped our favorite football team win games...we should be electing the former every time. If Peyton is pitted against a leech then I'll vote for him and hope he isn't just as corrupt, but there's no way we should believe he's the best potential candidate out there.
 
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If there is an effective way to differentiate someone's values based on what their background was prior to entering politics, I could get behind that...but I don't see how that would be possible. Given the choice between someone who has experience in politics and accomplished positive things at his prior position and someone who was charismatic and helped our favorite football team win games...we should be electing the former every time. If Peyton is pitted against a leech then I'll vote for him and hope he isn't just as corrupt, but there's no way we should believe he's the best potential candidate out there.

There are always 2 potential candidates.....

A leech

And a guy who made a living doing something else and decided to run for office and has virtually no experience.

There is rarely any middle ground

I looked up my two senators.

A former astronaut who was elected to the Florida house as soon as his NASA career was over and has been in goverent since the age of 30. Florida house, us house, us senate.

A lawyer elected to the Florida house in his 20's, now in the us senate.

One has been employed by the government all his life when you include the military and NASA.

The other since he was 29. He is 45 now and will probably be in government for the rest of his life
 
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There are always 2 potential candidates.....

A leech

And a guy who made a living doing something else and decided to run for office and has virtually no experience.

There is rarely any middle ground

If we assume that everyone in the political field is a leech, I see no reason not to make that same assumption for an "outsider" who enters politics. Especially someone who clearly made an effort to build a brand out of himself like Peyton has.

Speaking of Vol quarterbacks, Heath Shuler certainly wasn't exactly considered a breath of fresh air in Washington.
 
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If we assume that everyone in the political field is a leech, I see no reason not to make that same assumption for an "outsider" who enters politics. Especially someone who clearly made an effort to build a brand out of himself like Peyton has.

Speaking of Vol quarterbacks, Heath Shuler certainly wasn't exactly considered a breath of fresh air in Washington.

Again, how well they represent the people is something that can be debated.

My only suggestion is that just because he played football and that is only professional experience doesn't make him less qualified than people currently serving based on their track record.

Look at the choices we just had for president in 2016.

Hell, give me a phone book and let me choose a name at random and the country would probably be better off than the people we actually select.
 
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Everything you've ever done/been alleged to have done is fair game to be twisted and manipulated by the tabloids, and even the so called mainstream media. I don't know why anyone would want to put themself through that.
 
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Again, how well they represent the people is something that can be debated.

My only suggestion is that just because he played football and that is only professional experience doesn't make him less qualified than people currently serving based on their track record.

But that relies on the assumption that a) he has more positive intentions and b) he knows the system well enough to push those positive intentions through. I have strong doubts about both of those in regard to the average person, and someone as brand-focused as Peyton wouldn't leave a great first impression on me in that regard if I was a Tennessee voter.

Look at the choices we just had for president in 2016.
One of whom was an outsider. Someone's perception over which candidate was better will pretty much be answered by whether they're conservative or liberal, but I think many people on both sides can agree that his brashness and inexperience within the system have been a liability at this point, and many of his initiatives (whether you would consider them good or bad) will be that much harder for to implement as a result.

Hell, give me a phone book and let me choose a name at random and the country would probably be better off than the people we actually select.

I sincerely doubt that. Most people have inherently selfish political views whether they realize it or not, and if put into a position of power would attempt to serve those interests just as most (presumably) seasoned politicians already do. They'd just be much worse at it...though maybe that part wouldn't be so bad lol.
 
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They got their law degrees, hung around people of influence, got elected to some office and have been sucking on the peoples' teet ever since. Along the way, they have been elected to higher forms of office.

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Just imagined a meme with Jim Carrey and Dwayne Johnson....
 
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