Pete Thamel article on payment of players

[CINCYVOL]

Proud to be an American, I see.

Very proud. Greatest country on Earth by far, very far.

 

[CINCYVOL]

So we wanted it to remain illegal and under the table?

it did seem more fun that way

 

[VegasBaby!]

Same idea I had on here several months ago and got shot down because "profit sharing" is "communist" if I remember correctly.

I think he is taking revenue sharing instead of profit sharing.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Whether you agree or not at least he's making the general public aware of the problem by bringing the subject up.


The new way of compensating college athletes is chaotic and 'not a sustainable model.' Here's a solution

1. It is or will become chaotic, so what?
2. No, its not a sustainable model but it will take years or more to really impact the bottom line.
3. Why is the public looking for a solution?
4. Why is the public responsible for the NCAA/schools when in they have been in major criminal activity?

He does offer some potential paths of a solution but they are very vague and lack detail, and ignore the fact that all members schools nor players are created equal. And the elephant in the room is Congress isn't going to agree on all the terms, and I fall to see how there could be a one size fits all solution.

Basically, it sounds like he wants the players to be employees than willfully sign away rights they already have, but there are so many problems to this... he doesn't really address anything.

 

[OrangeAllDay]

Lots of over dramatization up in this thread

 

[Firebirdparts]

United States Congressman from Ohio 16 (I think) Anthony Gonzales (R) has been working on NIL in Congress since 2019. He was a wide receiver for Ohio State and the Indianapolis Colts. He has said the student athlete should be able to use NIL just like any other citizen but "NIL must never become a tool to buy players and it will unless it has guard rails. "

Smart dude. We've arrived, fairly quickly.

This idea that there "should be" a farm system would be sort of "fair" on some level, but we would not watch it, and as a result, they would not make the money. It's a funny situation. In order to collect these payments, players are going to have to keep boosters engaged first and foremost. They will have to keep fans engaged second. If they do that, nothing gets "ruined". No amount of farm-systeming/restructuring/rule-making is going to put the NIL genie back in the box.

Most of the talk is about solving the wrong problem. The problem is that people will just not be interested based on a variety of factors. When it comes to entertainment, people can change a lot, quickly, and permanently. Business people have this delusion that "our brand" is all that matters, but that has been shown over and over to be false. when it's over people will lie and say they "damaged their brand" when in fact they have eliminated the actual substance that people were buying. Jedi mind tricks only work on dumber people.

 

[bigorangepoppa]

The last thing that needs to happen is congress being involved. What should have happened when the SCOTUS made their ruling was to put a time frame on the NCAA to determine the model to be used to make NIL work fairly. I honestly don't know how it is going to be made equitable for all schools. The big winners will be the teams who have the best NIL deals for the players, the rest will just languish in mediocrity. I really see this as eventually ruining college football. That's a shame.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Beyond NIL, will the NCAA be able to continue enforcing limits on years of eligibility or requirements for academic good standing? Lots of potential change on the horizon.

That is something that the Department of Justice Anti-trust Division has been going back and forth with the NCAA hence the loosening of transfer rules. I think they will generally allow rules in that regard as long as the rules are not overly used to stamp out the market or become too big a hurdle.

I would say fluid in that regard for the foreseeable future.

 

[Firebirdparts]

Pete Thamel's essay betrays the same foolish assumption most of the media flapping heads makes - that popularity and attention given to college football is eternal and that supporters will tolerate every change regardless of how far it goes.

This is pretty much the biggest error.

The idea that a name, image, and likeness could apply to something other than an individual human being is the 2nd biggest error.