PERFECT EXAMPLE

#26
#26
My 15 year old son, soccer only sport kind of kid, sat and watched not only the Vols but also other Dance games. He even explained a lot of things to his older brother, who couldn't care less about any sports.

Thank you 18-19 Vols. You DID accomplish great things.

AV
 
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whobethis16 said:
Maybe they shouldn't have sleep walked in the first half, and actually come out with a sense of urgency, intensity, and focus for an entire game?

They played well for half that tournament. That's it. Terrible 2nd half against Colgate, terrible 2nd half against Iowa, and terrible 1st half and OT against Purdue.
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Yes, this game was lost in the 1st half. The stage was too big for them...missed free throws showed that. After they got over the stage fright they beat the crap out of Purdue.
 
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BruinVol said:
Last nights finish is the PERFECT EXAMPLE of why you can't judge a teams success on what happens in the tourney.


Just a complete travesty for the season to be decided on such a play.


You absolutely have to look at the entire body of work to judge a team.

Just stop stop stop the basketball is a tourney sport BS.
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Bball is a tournament sport.
 
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BruinVol said:
Hell no it doesn't take the hurt away. I literally am still sick to my stomach but not for myself. Those damn kids deserved better
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I do not think they are "damn" kids in anyway shape form or fashion. (if you are going to use profanity learn how and when to use it) I sometimes will resort to a "damn or hell or worse" but not as it refers to players.
 
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savannahfan said:
I do not think they are "damn" kids in anyway shape form or fashion. (if you are going to use profanity learn how and when to use it) I sometimes will resort to a "damn or hell or worse" but not as it refers to players.
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Pretty sure it was meant as a positive.
 
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savannahfan said:
I usually see eye to eye (not necessarily agree) with your posts. But this is not the time for this type of statement.
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Not everyone interpretes it the same way. In guessing you are older. Anyone younger than 25 would take that statement as positive. Im 40 and I knew it was positive.
 
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The whole thing is bittersweet because the reality is that the tournament is what it is all about. Its why the one and dones at Kentucky, Duke, and North Carolina sometimes seem to kind of meander their way through the regular season, and then turn on the jets once they hit March. They know, everyone knows, its all about the tournament.

On the other hand, the Vols had a helluva run this season. Fun to watch and exciting. You just have to take the bad with the good, and there's no way around it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The whole thing is bittersweet because the reality is that the tournament is what it is all about. Its why the one and dones at Kentucky, Duke, and North Carolina sometimes seem to kind of meander their way through the regular season, and then turn on the jets once they hit March. They know, everyone knows, its all about the tournament.

On the other hand, the Vols had a helluva run this season. Fun to watch and exciting. You just have to take the bad with the good, and there's no way around it.
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Good post but here is my entire point.

Let's take Duke/UCF and Tenn/Purdue


Isn't it just plain dumb to call one team a "winner of significance" in Duke when UCF saw a tip in just barely stay out of the basket while calling Tennessee a tourney failure when an official blew a whistle that changed the outcome???
 
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BruinVol said:
Good post but here is my entire point.

Let's take Duke/UCF and Tenn/Purdue


Isn't it just plain dumb to call one team a "winner of significance" in Duke when UCF saw a tip in just barely stay out of the basket while calling Tennessee a tourney failure when an official blew a whistle that changed the outcome???
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Here is what happened in the Duke game: ESPN hacked the Duke game
 
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BruinVol said:
Last nights finish is the PERFECT EXAMPLE of why you can't judge a teams success on what happens in the tourney.


Just a complete travesty for the season to be decided on such a play.


You absolutely have to look at the entire body of work to judge a team.

Just stop stop stop the basketball is a tourney sport BS.
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Then you don't know basketball.

Not advancing makes the season a disappointment.
 
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BruinVol said:
So where does the basketball is a tourney sport genius like yourself draw the line of "significance"???

Winning 31 games was meaningless I see

Beating Kentucky in the SEC tourney didn't measure up I see.

Making the sweet 16 didn't measure up I see.


I guess it was Natty or bust
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If you don’t like the tournament or playoff format that has employed North American sports for over 100 years then I suggest maybe not getting into sports and finding a different hobby. It’s not going to change and honestly I find it pretty weak how much you push this narrative to try and defend the team.

I said weeks ago they needed to win some sort of conference title with a sweet sixteen or make a Final Four for this season to be a success. And I would say that for a majority of people that’s not some sort of impossible measure. They did none of those things. 31 wins is nice but I’d sure as hell rather be in Purdue’s shoes right now with a chance to make the Final Four or LSU/Auburn shoes with a S16 and an SEC title.
 
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zjcvols said:
If you don’t like the tournament or playoff format that has employed North American sports.
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Wtf are you talking about???

Never said I didn't love the tourney but I'll tell what it doesn't do. It doesn't Insure the best teams play longer. It's great entertainment and it's a great event for that reason but it isn't the best way to find the best 4 teams.
 
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zjcvols said:
They were a preseason top 10 team. They didn’t win a conference title. They didn’t get to the Final Four. Hell, didn’t even get to the Elite Eight. How can you honestly sit back and say “yup great season UT achieved all their goals.”
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You're thinking too small. If achieving all their goals is a measure of success or failure then we have alot of failures walking around here.
 
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BruinVol said:
Wtf are you talking about???

Never said I didn't love the tourney but I'll tell what it doesn't do. It doesn't Insure the best teams play longer. It's great entertainment and it's a great event for that reason but it isn't the best way to find the best 4 teams.
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Then what’s your point? Why are you so adamantly trying to defend this team by saying the tourney shouldn’t matter since it’s a flawed system? Overall teams are defined by championships. Some seasons, yeah it’s kind of silly to expect that (like Barnes’ first two seasons) and those seasons should be judged differently. But you win a SEC title the season before, return 9/10 of your top players, and start the season in the top 10 and come up with no titles, no Final Fours, nothing? It’s not a successful season.

And by the way, Tennessee had 18 games to win a SEC championship and didn’t do that either.
 
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jp1 said:
You're thinking too small. If achieving all their goals is a measure of success or failure then we have alot of failures walking around here.
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If I told you before the season, without giving you the win total, that UT wouldn’t win a regular or tournament conference title and lose in the S16, you would have been happy with that season? Come on no you wouldn’t.
 
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There aren't too many years that we beat Kentucky twice and sweep Vandy, Memphis, and Florida. The success of this season certainly helps UT hoops going forward.
 
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