People ready to admit that Trump is a racist, yet?

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#506
QuickSmurf said:
Nothing that you quoted said its ok either.
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The truth lies with Monty

There are Jews in the world there are Buddhists
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them

I'm a Roman Catholic
And have been since before I was born
And the one thing they say about Catholics is
They'll take you as soon as you're warm

You don't have to be a six-footer
You don't have to have a great brain
You don't have to have any clothes on you're
A Catholic the moment Dad came

Because every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found

Every sperm is wanted
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon
Spill theirs just anywhere
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Every sperm is useful
Every sperm is fine
God needs everybody's
Mine and mine and mine

Let the pagan spill theirs
Over mountain, hill, and plain
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate
 
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#507
#507
ClearwaterVol said:
The truth lies with Monty

There are Jews in the world there are Buddhists
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them

I'm a Roman Catholic
And have been since before I was born
And the one thing they say about Catholics is
They'll take you as soon as you're warm

You don't have to be a six-footer
You don't have to have a great brain
You don't have to have any clothes on you're
A Catholic the moment Dad came

Because every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found

Every sperm is wanted
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon
Spill theirs just anywhere
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Every sperm is useful
Every sperm is fine
God needs everybody's
Mine and mine and mine

Let the pagan spill theirs
Over mountain, hill, and plain
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate
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This is the belief of your church, not God.

In the thirteenth century, Catholic theologian Thomas Aquinas wrote that a soul enters the body at 40 days after conception for males and 80 days for females. why is different for males than females?? This became church doctrine for many centuries, and abortion before that time was not considered a mortal sin. The belief that life begins at conception apparently has its origins in an 1869 decree by Pope Pius IX that abortion at any point in pregnancy called for excommunication.

Like I said previously, I do not approve of abortion but it is not my nor anyone else right to tell a person what they can or can't do with their body.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
This is the belief of your church, not God.

In the thirteenth century, Catholic theologian Thomas Aquinas wrote that a soul enters the body at 40 days after conception for males and 80 days for females. why is different for males than females?? This became church doctrine for many centuries, and abortion before that time was not considered a mortal sin. The belief that life begins at conception apparently has its origins in an 1869 decree by Pope Pius IX that abortion at any point in pregnancy called for excommunication.

Like I said previously, I do not approve of abortion but it is not my nor anyone else right to tell a person what they can or can't do with their body.
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You obviously don't know me.:) Not my church. I am one of the open minded atheists. I would love to believe in a deity, but the breaks in logic do not allow me to do so.
 
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#510
VolsSportsFan said:
Which would mean it's unclear since it neither endorses or condemns it.
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My entire point was for Marcus because he says abortion is a sin in the eyes of god...that is his opinion as well as the opinion of the Baptist church (which he mentions). This is what annoys me about religion, the church makes up their own beliefs and uses god as the reason for it. To me that's an abuse of gods true word
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You obviously don't know me.:) Not my church. I am one of the open minded atheists. I would love to believe in a deity, but the breaks in logic do not allow me to do so.
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I just didn't agree with your poem. I believe in god but I am not a very religious person. I don't feel anyone needs to go to church to prove they believe in god or feel better about themselves. For centuries all religions have shown the need to make up their own rules to benefit what THEY believe and not necessarily what is in the bible or what are gods words. Many churches will point fingers at other religions and say that religion is wrong and only my religion is the true word....My response to me is Prove It, prove what a Baptist believes is more right than a Buddhist or Muslim or Catholic
 
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#512
Sin City Vol said:
My entire point was for Marcus because he says abortion is a sin in the eyes of god...that is his opinion as well as the opinion of the Baptist church (which he mentions). This is what annoys me about religion, the church makes up their own beliefs and uses god as the reason for it. To me that's an abuse of gods true word
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Is it a sin to vote for someone that supports something that the voter views as a sin?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Is it a sin to vote for someone that supports something that the voter views as a sin?
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That would likely get into whether your conscience is violated. I don't know the exact verses but I'm pretty sure Paul talks about if you think something is wrong and do it, it's wrong.

Of course that gets into an area where apparently you can only vote for a candidate that you 100% agree with. After all, if the candidate does anything you consider a sin or supports an issue you think is a sin, then I guess you can't vote for them.
 
#516
#516
ClearwaterVol said:
That's cool. I like it down here. I'm between St. Petersburg and Clearwater in Redington Shores.
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You been having any issues with snakes? I keep up with all the Python hunting that goes on there from time to time. I would move there if it wasn't for the alligators and big snakes, I have a couple of dogs and I don't want to see them in some reptiles mouth
 
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#517
VolsSportsFan said:
That would likely get into whether your conscience is violated. I don't know the exact verses but I'm pretty sure Paul talks about if you think something is wrong and do it, it's wrong.

Of course that gets into an area where apparently you can only vote for a candidate that you 100% agree with. After all, if the candidate does anything you consider a sin or supports an issue you think is a sin, then I guess you can't vote for them.
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Good point, which makes me wonder....since Catholics don't believe in divorce should they vote for Trump?
 
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#520
37L1 said:
They don't believe in abortion either, guess they are SOL.
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I assume they also don't believe in:
Murder (and staging it like it was a suicide)
Using your "charity" as a slush fund
Keeping classified documents on a personal server
Attacking women for accusing your husband of rape
 
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#521
volfanjustin said:
I assume they also don't believe in:
Murder (and staging it like it was a suicide)
Using your "charity" as a slush fund
Keeping classified documents on a personal server
Attacking women for accusing your husband of rape
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You'll have to ask the one who boiled it down to 1 or 2 issues that are the only things he apparently finds sinful enough to get outraged to not vote for someone.
 
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#522
volfanjustin said:
I assume they also don't believe in:
Murder (and staging it like it was a suicide)
Using your "charity" as a slush fund
Keeping classified documents on a personal server
Attacking women for accusing your husband of rape
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Most likely not...I guess America is screwed on who to vote for
 
#523
#523
VolsSportsFan said:
You'll have to ask the one who boiled it down to 1 or 2 issues that are the only things he apparently finds sinful enough to get outraged to not vote for someone.
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I just kept on the topic that was being discussed but whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy
 
#524
#524
Sin City Vol said:
You been having any issues with snakes? I keep up with all the Python hunting that goes on there from time to time. I would move there if it wasn't for the alligators and big snakes, I have a couple of dogs and I don't want to see them in some reptiles mouth
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No. I see rat snakes from time to time, usually when one of my dogs is eating one. Gators you see around, but they hang out on ponds and lakes mostly, so unless you have one in your yard your encounters will be few and far between.
 
#525
#525
VolsSportsFan said:
That would likely get into whether your conscience is violated. I don't know the exact verses but I'm pretty sure Paul talks about if you think something is wrong and do it, it's wrong.

Of course that gets into an area where apparently you can only vote for a candidate that you 100% agree with. After all, if the candidate does anything you consider a sin or supports an issue you think is a sin, then I guess you can't vote for them.
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Why is one's conscience violated because another person is permitted to commit a sin?
 
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