Penn State scandal (merged)

#351
#351
LawVol13 said:
This isn't about having a reasonable belief that a child abuse occurred. A member of the staff saw with his own eyes a boy being raped. That means Joe Paterno had knowledge of a felony and didn't report it. Not that he just had a reasonable belief.
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The Statute portion I quoted is the child abuse mandatory requirement provision. It is the governing statutory law in the matter.
 
#352
#352
PaVolsFan said:
The Statute portion I quoted is the child abuse mandatory requirement provision. It is the governing statutory law in the matter.
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It may or may not be. You should look up if someone can be prosecuted for misprison. If so, Joe's screwed.
 
#353
#353
LawVol13 said:
It probably means that they can't prove he's guilty of misprison. That doesn't mean he's not guilty though.
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Soooo I can break a law in Pa. And not be prosecuted immediately? I'm packing my bags.
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#354
#354
LawVol13 said:
It may or may not be. You should look up if someone can be prosecuted for misprison. If so, Joe's screwed.
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Misprision is an old statute from England. It is still applicable somewhat at the Federal level, but most state jurisdiction have abolished the law. PA does not have misprision. Most states do not. Child abuse is aa state crime, not a federal crime. Therefore, federal law is not applicable.
 
#355
#355
TXA&M07 said:
Soooo I can break a law in Pa. And not be prosecuted immediately? I'm packing my bags.
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http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Misprision.aspx

Almost every state has rejected the crime of misprision of felony. Thus, persons are under no duty to report a crime. One policy reason for rejecting misprision is that the crime is vague and difficult to apply to real situations. Another reason is that the crime is seen as an unacceptable encroachment on civil freedom. In 1822 the U.S. Supreme Court cautioned against misuse of the misprision of felony statute, stating, "It may be the duty of a citizen to … proclaim every offense which comes to his knowledge; but the law which would punish him in every case, for not performing this duty, is too harsh" (Marbury v. Brooks, 20 U.S. [7 Wheat.] 556, 5 L. Ed. 522).
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Better move out of the United States.
 
#357
#357
LawVol13 said:
This isn't about having a reasonable belief that a child abuse occurred. A member of the staff saw with his own eyes a boy being raped. That means Joe Paterno had knowledge of a felony and didn't report it. Not that he just had a reasonable belief.
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Becuse Paterno is now a member of the PA law enforcement agency. He's a football coach guys. Not God of Pa.
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TXA&M07 said:
Becuse Paterno is now a member of the PA law enforcement agency. He's a football coach guys. Not God of Pa.
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He's a piece of garbage. That must be listed first. After that, he's a football coach or whatever else.
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bUTrosbUTrosVOLie said:
TXA&M07 said:
Becuse Paterno is now a member of the PA law enforcement agency. He's a football coach guys. Not God of Pa.
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He's a piece of garbage. That must be listed first. After that, he's a football coach or whatever else.
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Pure emotion. Not an ounce of circumstantial evidence.
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#361
#361
TXA&M07 said:
bUTrosbUTrosVOLie said:
Pure emotion. Not an ounce of circumstantial evidence.
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I have to agree with him on this.

Unless Paterno is the one doing the
raping, he's not going to be charged with anything based on who he is.

...still doesn't change my mind that he
could have put a stop to this, and for letting children suffer because he is a pu***, that makes him a piece of garbage above anything else.
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#362
#362
TXA&M07 said:
Becuse Paterno is now a member of the PA law enforcement agency. He's a football coach guys. Not God of Pa.
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Please. If I was prosecuting this case, I'd charge all parties that failed to disclose the fact that the Pennsylvania football facility was being used as a child rape room by Sandusky with conspiracy to commit child rape.

Pennsylvania Conspiracy Law:

"The conduct of the parties and the circumstances surrounding such conduct may create a “web of evidence” linking the accused to the alleged conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt."

"An agreement can be inferred from a variety of circumstances including, but not limited to, the relation between the parties, knowledge of and participation in the crime, and the circumstances and conduct of the parties surrounding the criminal episode; these factors may coalesce to establish a conspiratorial agreement beyond a reasonable doubt where one factor alone might fail."

Here, everyone with knowledge that Sandusky was actively raping kids continued to allow him access to the football facilities. In fact, he was there as little as 8 days ago. It's reasonable to assume that they knew exactly what was going on yet they continued to allow him access. This gave him access to children, and it allowed Penn State to not have to disclose that they had a pedo on the staff for 30 years.

If Pennsylvania wants to send a message, they should charge everyone with knowledge of these events with conspiracy to commit child rape starting with Joe Paterno and continuing with whoever else knew it.
 
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#365
#365
TXA&M07 said:
You'd lose LV.
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I guarantee that you could land an indictment on all of them for it. Then, it would be a matter of time until one of them rolls on the rest of the crew and we learn the truth.
 
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#366
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LawVol13 said:
I guarantee that you could land an indict all of them for it. Then, it would be a matter of time until one of them rolls on the rest of the crew and we learn the truth.
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Then Pa district attorney's office is dropping the ball.
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#368
#368
I don't think Sandusky was the only one to mess around with a kid. Someone else high has to have some dirt on them too, with the way they have protected him.
 
#370
#370
I hope not, but there may be a flux of young men to come forward.
I think some monies have been paid to some people as well.
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#372
#372
LawVol13 said:
Here, everyone with knowledge that Sandusky was actively raping kids continued to allow him access to the football facilities. In fact, he was there as little as 8 days ago.
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I thought they took his keys away?
 
#373
#373
I'm sorry but I don't see how Joe Pa fulfilled his legal obligation under the quoted statute. The staff member reported the abuse to his superior, in this case Joe Pa, and the obligation was on him to report. To say that he fulfilled his obligation by reporting to the Ad, when brought to its ultimate conclusion, would result in only the president of State U being responsible to report, a consequence the statute never intended. Joe PA, as HEAD COACH, has the responsibility to report when HIS STAFF reports the abuse to him.
 
#375
#375
BigPapaVol said:
I don't give a crap about the legal process. His actions in this were about protecting his pedo friend rather than protecting the kids that the guy ruined.

He can maintain his ignorance all day long, but he knew or is stupid as hell.
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This should be the general consensus of the college football world.
 
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