PC Gaming: A broad discussion

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CNCVol88

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I've been having a small discussion in another thread about PC gaming but I felt like I wanted to give PC gaming a place of its own to talk about in a broad sense.

The first thing I want to do is talk about a couple of common misconceptions about PC Gaming.

The first is that it costs >= $1000 USD to get into PC gaming. The truth is that for around 600 dollars, you could get something that at the very least is going to be the same level as the xbox and PS4 and may even outperform it in some ways. This will most likely pay for itself within a year due to not having to pay for online and for services like Steam's Winter and Summer sales and humble Bundles (As an Aside, I picked up Far Cry 3 for 7.50 and the New Tomb Raider for 10 dollars this week for example and I picked up Dead Space, Dead Space 3, Crysis 2 Maximum Edition, Burnout Paradise Ultimate box, and Mirror's Edge for 1 Dollar in a humble bundle a while ago so basically 20 Cents each.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: CoolMax 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($94.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $634.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-23 10:17 EST-0500)

After Rebates, you're looking at a system that cost you a little more than an xbox one but your games will be mostly cheaper (or will become cheaper quicker) and there's no online fee. The Case I chose is a Mini-ATX case. Its a small Form Factor case. You won't be able to SLI the Graphics card I picked out but it will fit in the case and you should be able to sit it near your TV if you wish to play with a Controller. The CPU only has 6 cores but each core is running at twice the speed as the PS4 and Xbone so I think that's a good tradeoff.

2) There are no good games on PC. That is strictly false. Not only are there great games, some games that appear on both, are played best on PC (Battlefield and Skyrim I'm looking at you) We also have the ultimate Backward Compatibility. I can play games from 15 years ago on my rig if I want. We have games that over 10 years later are still going strong. I made a short list of quality games on PC that's either out or coming out in the next year or so on another thread. I won't type that out again but I will say google Star Citizen, Path of Exile (which I've seen it mentioned in several best games of 2013 lists), Just Cause 2 Multiplayer Mod, Skyrim Mods, DOTA2, League Of Legends, Starcraft II (as if you didn't know what that was), and that's just scratching the surface. We have great stuff on PC. its not as hyped as a lot of console stuff, but then again, they don't have the backing of Activision and EA a lot of the times.

I'd love to talk about PC gaming and have this an Open discussion. Its a Topic I like to talk about. Its a hobby for me (PC Gaming...and that includes tinkering with Hardware. That part is insanely fun)
 
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Got a little more into mine, but it was built for work first and gaming second. Will post specs later.
 
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This is the one I'm looking at building sometime in the coming months (I've got more important plans with that money currently. The Girl's gonna have some bling on her finger soon.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $772.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-23 11:44 EST-0500)
 
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I don't think I'll ever use a PC as my main gaming system but Steam/GOG/Amazon sales are amazing. And I have played the s*** out of Civ 5 this year.
 
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My specs at the moment:

  • i7 3770k w/ Coolmaster 212 Plus
  • Sabertooth Z77 MoBo
  • Corsair 16gb of 1866 (2x8GB)... I will be doubling this up shortly. I am maxing out the memory while trying to render plans
  • GeForce GTX 650 Ti SSC 2GB ... Would like to go to a bridged setup
  • Corsair 400R Case... Great case at a low price.
  • 128gb SSD for main
  • 3TB of secondary
  • Monitors (2) 24s LCD and (1) 42 LED
 
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You can get into PC gaming for the same price as a Ps4 with similar performance
 
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I don't think I'll ever use a PC as my main gaming system but Steam/GOG/Amazon sales are amazing. And I have played the s*** out of Civ 5 this year.

Civ is probably my favorite series of all time. 1,2,5 are great, or great for their time. 3,4 were good, but they had alot of things I didn't like. I'm playing civ 5 now.
 
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Civ is probably my favorite series of all time. 1,2,5 are great, or great for their time. 3,4 were good, but they had alot of things I didn't like. I'm playing civ 5 now.

I thought 5 wasn't all that great at first but the expansions have done more for it than any of the other games. It's seriously incredible.
 
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Pretty sure I'll be picking up an i7 4770k in the next week or two. Been 4 years since I've bought a chip and need to upgrade. I've also got a 660 with 2g DDR5 that performs fairly well and 12g of ram. No SSD yet. Maybe this summer.

Battlefield 4 was the first game to really be unplayable on my system. Loaded but was slow and sluggish and crashed a lot.

If Hotline Miami goes on sale, I'd recommend it. I haven't played on PC, but the Vita version is fantastic.

I'm a fan of steam, amazon sales, cheapassgamer, and humble bundles.

Been playing FEZ lately.
 
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Pretty sure I'll be picking up an i7 4770k in the next week or two. Been 4 years since I've bought a chip and need to upgrade. I've also got a 660 with 2g DDR5 that performs fairly well and 12g of ram. No SSD yet. Maybe this summer.

Battlefield 4 was the first game to really be unplayable on my system. Loaded but was slow and sluggish and crashed a lot.

If Hotline Miami goes on sale, I'd recommend it. I haven't played on PC, but the Vita version is fantastic.

I'm a fan of steam, amazon sales, cheapassgamer, and humble bundles.

Been playing FEZ lately.

I thought FEZ was an interesting looking concept.
 
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FEZ is f'ing awesome.

Have you watched the Netflix documentary that covers its development? Chronicles FEZ, Braid, and Super Meatboy.

It's called Indie Game: the Movie.
 
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Also, I have an intel dual quad core - how difficult is it to upgrade to an i5 or i7? What other swaps would I have to do at the same time to maintain comparability?
 
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Also, I have an intel dual quad core - how difficult is it to upgrade to an i5 or i7? What other swaps would I have to do at the same time to maintain comparability?

You'd have to swap out mobos too. The i3, i5, and i7 use a different architecture from the core 2 series (and each generation of the I series uses a different architecture from each other. >.>) other than that as long as you've got DDR3 RAM and a PCIe gfx card, you should be good.
 
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This thread deserves a wedgie

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You'd have to swap out mobos too. The i3, i5, and i7 use a different architecture from the core 2 series (and each generation of the I series uses a different architecture from each other. >.>) other than that as long as you've got DDR3 RAM and a PCIe gfx card, you should be good.

Hm, I've got DDR2 ram. Seems this is getting more cumbersome/
 
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Yeah but wont all this be outdated in like a few months?

A common misnomer regarding PC gaming. I bought my PC in 2008, have only updated the graphics card in that 5-year span, and I've only just now started to have issues with degradation.

If you get OCD about your hardware capabilities, then yes, you'll be swapping parts ($$$) every 6-months or so.

Straight up, I'd say my total lifecycle cost on my PC is quite similar to my 360.
 
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Yeah but wont all this be outdated in like a few months?

The 600 dollar system I posted in the OP will last you this entire Console Cycle...The reason? Its the same power as the consoles. Most games are held back by console capabilities and so you'll make at least the minimum system requirements most of the time. My system was built about 5 years ago and hasn't seen a single upgrade. BF4 is the first thing to test my system.

EDIT: Also, all the money you'll be saving on the awesome sales that happen in PC gaming (Tomb Raider on Sale on Amazon today for 5 bucks btw. Beats Steam even...Wish I would have waited for it.), you can spend that extra money on a new Graphics card in a few years or something and stay ahead of the curve.

Just felt like adding a screenie from Tomb Raider also.

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Hm, I've got DDR2 ram. Seems this is getting more cumbersome/

I'd just start building a new rig a part at a time. That's what I'm doing.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $773.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-24 10:09 EST-0500)

Gonna pick up the gfx card first and put her in my current rig until I can upgrade everything else.
 

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