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#76
#76
Venables would be a solid hire, I wanted him to begin with before Butch was finally put out of misery. Want Kiff now, would be happy with BV.
 
#78
#78
Brent Venables - just the facts

• In his 21 years as a full-time assistant coach, his teams have 21 winning seasons, have been to 24 bowl games and have won 10+ games 17 times.

• Has coached in five National Championship games. Helped the Tigers to their second national title in 2016 with a 35-31 win over Alabama.

• Recipient of the 2016 Frank Broyles Award as the nation’s top assistant coach.

• Named one of the top-10 recruiters in the ACC in 2015 by Rivals.

• National defensive coordinator-of-the-year by FootballScoop in 2014 and national recruiter-of-the-year by Rivals in 2015.

• One of five finalists for the 2015 Frank Broyles Award after his defense was fourth nationally in third-down conversion percentage (.277), fourth in sacks per game (3.2) and fifth in tackles for loss per game (8.4).

• His 2014 defense led the nation in total defense (260.😎, pass efficiency defense (98.3), first downs allowed (185), third-down conversion percentage defense (27.4) and tackles for loss

• His 2013 defense, which was 24th in the nation in scoring defense and 25th in total defense, led the nation in tackles for loss (122). He also coached All-ACC linebackers Spencer Shuey and Anthony.

• Named one of the top-25 recruiters in the nation in 2013 by Rivals.

• Named one of the top-50 recruiters in the nation in 2013 by 247Sports.

• Named one of the top-10 recruiters in the ACC in 2013 by Rivals.

• His 2012 defense held opponents to just 34.0 percent on third down, 24th-best in the nation.

• A big reason Clemson has won back-to-back ACC titles for the first time in 28 years.

• Coached 13 years (1999-11) at Oklahoma and three years (1996-98) at Kansas State. He was also a graduate assistant coach at Kansas State for three seasons (1993-95).

• Served as co-defensive coordinator at Oklahoma (1999-03) and defensive coordinator at Oklahoma (2004-11).

• Linebackers under his direction were named Big 12 Defensive Player-of-the-Year five times and Big 12 Defensive Newcomer-of-the-Year five times. He also coached two Butkus Award winners and two other Butkus Award finalists.

• Broyles Award finalist in 2006 when Oklahoma led the Big 12 in total defense and scoring defense.

I rest my case on why he's the best choice.

Yep he's a great choice for DC
 
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#79
#79
So your #1 was Venables?

Yes, but that has been some time ago. With all the good candidates getting by us and Venables apparently getting little traction along with others turning us down, I began thinking Kiff would be solid and interested. I still think either would have better qualifications than most of the other candidates. Venables has been around and coached for a couple of HOF coaches...and he can recruit well also.
 
#80
#80
From where we find ourselves today, I’m ok with Venables. The DC route seemed to work out pretty well for UGA.
 
#81
#81
I'm guessing that these names are out there to make it seem like Phil did his due diligence before hiring Les. I think he wants Les and is making it seem like he did a thorough search first.

To choose between Steele who did horrible at Baylor or Vrnetabjes who has no head coaching experience or Morris who is like Butch or Les. Then ii take Les because at least he once was a winning coach. He can improve the program more until we get a better hire later
 
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#82
#82
To choose between Steele who did horrible at Baylor or Vrnetabjes who has no head coaching experience or Morris who is like Butch or Les. Then ii take Les because at least he once was a winning coach. He can improve the program more until we get a better hire later

Morris is like Butch or Les except that he can actually coach...
 
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#83
#83
I was expecting some good names to reemerge in our coaching search, but sadly they've only gotten worse. Football Scoop is saying Fulmer will likely pick from Morris, Steele, Miles, Tucker, and Venables. Woof. That's a terrible list outside the chance of a Miles/Tee combo. And I'm still pissed that Fulmer killed the Leach deal and it appears we are going to hire someone far inferior to Leach. It is also worrisome that he was ok with Doeren. The absolute floor should be Miles/Tee though. If we go the other routes than we are no better off if it would have been Currie picking the guy, not including Schiano lol.

Until Fulmer hires someone I am still hopeful for a high caliber coach. I am still concerned that he is going to be typical Phil and talk a good, strong, emotional line and under perform.
 
#86
#86
Not sure why so many fans are expecting or hoping for anything other than another "let's take a chance on this guy" kind of coach.

At this point, with the pile of Athletic Department financial disasters now reaching about a mile high, I'm guessing the funds to bring in a Big Name simply aren't as easy to cough up as they once were.

We just have to hope that whatever no-name but with potential, somewhat personable go-getter will be the next Dabo.

Whomever is hired, it feels to me like this would be a good time to hold back with the criticisms a little more than folks are used to doing and try to envision that ANYthing is possible. Sometimes people we don't expect to do a good job find a way to do a GREAT job.
 
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#87
#87
gonna wait for the word from AD Fulmer...just for ****s and grins...better for me that way...:)

GO AD FULMER AND GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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#88
#88
The “culture” of the football program at Tennessee has been a hot topic. We need a head coach that is going to demand excellence from top to bottom; on both sides of the ball. In addition, change the “picture” of Tennessee to recruits. That is just the start. That head coach is going to have to do it in the SEC. when I signed at UT, I had people try to describe what playing in the SEC was like. It didn’t come close to reality.

It matters that the head coach know what it is like to compete in the SEC. it isn’t a place to experiment, learn on the job, or grow into it; not at Tennessee where the culture and the image is poor. I talk with athletes and they don’t see UT as committed to excellence. I suspect Cade Mays doesn’t see UT as committed to excellence.

In my opinion we need a head coach who has an established system that is successful at this level. That to me (even though I don’t like either personally) although my coaches told me it wasn’t a popularity contest; is someone like Leach or Kiffin

Both have demonstrated player development (getting the max out of their athletes, from the walk on to the five star), good recruiting to their system, and success at turning bad programs around.
 
#89
#89
I was expecting some good names to reemerge in our coaching search, but sadly they've only gotten worse. Football Scoop is saying Fulmer will likely pick from Morris, Steele, Miles, Tucker, and Venables. Woof. That's a terrible list outside the chance of a Miles/Tee combo. And I'm still pissed that Fulmer killed the Leach deal and it appears we are going to hire someone far inferior to Leach. It is also worrisome that he was ok with Doeren. The absolute floor should be Miles/Tee though. If we go the other routes than we are no better off if it would have been Currie picking the guy, not including Schiano lol.
Repeating a story over and over does not make it true.
 
#90
#90
Both are Clemson guys. Morris was the OC at Clemson up until 2014.Arkansas is talking to Morris too. Currie already interviewed Morris once. If we get someone like that, I expect an apathy to set in that that we haven't ever seen at UT. I think Miles is a terrible idea, but a ton of people seem fired up about him. I'm not one of them. That's the direction I think we'll go though if Cut turns us down again.
Sounds like you need to get over yourself. Let me guess, a Gruden man.
 
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#91
#91
To choose between Steele who did horrible at Baylor or Vrnetabjes who has no head coaching experience or Morris who is like Butch or Les. Then ii take Les because at least he once was a winning coach. He can improve the program more until we get a better hire later

I hope and pray that Vol fans don't show their arses when the choice is given. Fulmer loves the university to much to put it in the hands of someone incapable of righting the ship. Just have to trust ole Phil.
 
#93
#93
Brent Venables - just the facts

• In his 21 years as a full-time assistant coach, his teams have 21 winning seasons, have been to 24 bowl games and have won 10+ games 17 times.

• Has coached in five National Championship games. Helped the Tigers to their second national title in 2016 with a 35-31 win over Alabama.

• Recipient of the 2016 Frank Broyles Award as the nation’s top assistant coach.

• Named one of the top-10 recruiters in the ACC in 2015 by Rivals.

• National defensive coordinator-of-the-year by FootballScoop in 2014 and national recruiter-of-the-year by Rivals in 2015.

• One of five finalists for the 2015 Frank Broyles Award after his defense was fourth nationally in third-down conversion percentage (.277), fourth in sacks per game (3.2) and fifth in tackles for loss per game (8.4).

• His 2014 defense led the nation in total defense (260.😎, pass efficiency defense (98.3), first downs allowed (185), third-down conversion percentage defense (27.4) and tackles for loss

• His 2013 defense, which was 24th in the nation in scoring defense and 25th in total defense, led the nation in tackles for loss (122). He also coached All-ACC linebackers Spencer Shuey and Anthony.

• Named one of the top-25 recruiters in the nation in 2013 by Rivals.

• Named one of the top-50 recruiters in the nation in 2013 by 247Sports.

• Named one of the top-10 recruiters in the ACC in 2013 by Rivals.

• His 2012 defense held opponents to just 34.0 percent on third down, 24th-best in the nation.

• A big reason Clemson has won back-to-back ACC titles for the first time in 28 years.

• Coached 13 years (1999-11) at Oklahoma and three years (1996-98) at Kansas State. He was also a graduate assistant coach at Kansas State for three seasons (1993-95).

• Served as co-defensive coordinator at Oklahoma (1999-03) and defensive coordinator at Oklahoma (2004-11).

• Linebackers under his direction were named Big 12 Defensive Player-of-the-Year five times and Big 12 Defensive Newcomer-of-the-Year five times. He also coached two Butkus Award winners and two other Butkus Award finalists.

• Broyles Award finalist in 2006 when Oklahoma led the Big 12 in total defense and scoring defense.

I rest my case on why he's the best choice.

I am in no way saying that Venables will win big at Tennessee but, to compare hiring him to hiring Dooley or Butch is laughable! Venables is coveted, the others, not so much. The thing I'm looking at is who could Venables bring with him as a staff. The same could be said for Mel Tucker and the possibility of bringing Chaney and Pittman with him.

GBO!!
 
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#94
#94
Gramey123 what I'm implying is that I back you on Venables being possibly the best candidate.

GBO!!
 
#95
#95
you people are nuts an have no sense at all, what in the heck is wrong with Morris, nothing, clemson is still running the offense he brought in years ago an he took a losing progam in SMu an made them winners, im glad none of yall have any say in who we hire
 
#96
#96
I hope and pray that Vol fans don't show their arses when the choice is given. Fulmer loves the university to much to put it in the hands of someone incapable of righting the ship. Just have to trust ole Phil.

Trust ole Phil. That’s a joke. You’ll see. Hope I’m wrong.
 

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