Out Of Adversity, An Opportunity.

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hatvol96

hatvol96

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As one of Dooley's harshest critics, I'm very interested to watch this situation play out. If he's going to be true to what he has said almost ad nauseum, this shouldn't be about what the police does or doesn't do in the way of charging people. If Dooley is satisfied that certain guys were drinking underage and then participated in gang beating of a defenseless person, his previous words make his course of action clear. However, as I said when Pearl was dealing with the New Year's Day Mess, he shouldn't listen to the Bob Hodges and John Penningtons of the world and boot people simply to "send a message." I'll say this: If Dooley handles what is an obviously serious matter for a program on tenuous ground aleady well, I'll be far more inclined to to believe I might have misjudged the guy.
 
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Interesting, and though the situations are different, hopefully the outcome will be comparable. A united team front with a few vocal leaders is what needs to transpire.
 
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I think most of Dooley's critics will be impressed if he rises to this challenge.
 
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hatvol96 said:
As one of Dooley's harshest critics, I'm very interested to watch this situation play out. If he's going to be true to what he has said almost ad nauseum, this shouldn't be about what the police does or doesn't do in the way of charging people. If Dooley is satisfied that certain guys were drinking underage and then participated in gang beating of a defenseless person, his previous words make his course of action clear. However, as I said when Pearl was dealing with the New Year's Day Mess, he shouldn't listen to the Bob Hodges and John Penningtons of the world and boot people simply to "send a message." I'll say this: If Dooley handles what is an obviously serious matter for a program on tenuous ground aleady well, I'll be far more inclined to to believe I might have misjudged the guy.
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Good to read from you, hat. What do you think is Dooley's best move in these circumstances?
 
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hatvol96 said:
I think most of Dooley's critics will be impressed if he rises to this challenge.
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I will be.

I'm not wanting him to boot kids off just for being there.

The guilty parties need to face consequences for their actions.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
Good to read from you, hat. What do you think is Dooley's best move in these circumstances?
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Same thing I said I thought Pearl should do. Ask your players what their individual involvements were. Then investigate. Anyone who lies to you is dismissed permanently. Those who tell the truth, you deal with in accordance with what they did. I will say, I have a tough time envisioning a scenario under which Myles should stay.
 
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Lexvol said:
I'm wondering if he will be afforded the opportunity to make his own decisions.
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As much as I think Dooley was a bad hire. Better him make the decision than Hamilton or the University.
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Lexvol said:
I'm wondering if he will be afforded the opportunity to make his own decisions.
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If he's not, he and Hamilton both should be out of a job. Hamilton for hiring a guy he doesn't trust to make tough decisions and Dooley for signing up to work under those conditions.
 
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hatvol96 said:
As one of Dooley's harshest critics, I'm very interested to watch this situation play out. If he's going to be true to what he has said almost ad nauseum, this shouldn't be about what the police does or doesn't do in the way of charging people. If Dooley is satisfied that certain guys were drinking underage and then participated in gang beating of a defenseless person, his previous words make his course of action clear. However, as I said when Pearl was dealing with the New Year's Day Mess, he shouldn't listen to the Bob Hodges and John Penningtons of the world and boot people simply to "send a message." I'll say this: If Dooley handles what is an obviously serious matter for a program on tenuous ground aleady well, I'll be far more inclined to to believe I might have misjudged the guy.
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No one should, about any topic.
 
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Agreed Hat... Myles has got to go, second time offender and that doesn't stand up in Dooleys book so we hear
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hatvol96 said:
Same thing I said I thought Pearl should do. Ask your players what their individual involvements were. Then investigate. Anyone who lies to you is dismissed permanently. Those who tell the truth, you deal with in accordance with what they did. I will say, I have a tough time envisioning a scenario under which Myles should stay.
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Question for you. I am not sure of your area of expertise in your law career, but I was wondering if the resisting arrest charge on Da'Rick for "tensing up" as I believe it was said is common place? (Note: I saw it posted that it was listed as that in the affidavit although I have yet to read it fully) Likely to stick?
 
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One rule should definitely be that any member found within a hundred yards of that establishment is off the team.
 
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Ohiovol09 said:
Agreed Hat... Myles has got to go, second time offender and that doesn't stand up in Dooleys book so we hear
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If he assaulted an on-duty officer, it should be an easy decision to dismiss him even without the previous offense.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If he's not, he and Hamilton both should be out of a job. Hamilton for hiring a guy he doesn't trust to make tough decision and Dooley for signing up to work under those conditions.
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It would certainly be a poor indicator. I know that I wouldn't agree to work under those conditions.

All kidding aside, for some reason I have a gut feeling he will shine in this situation. We shall see.
 
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thunder5 said:
What constitues a punishable offense to you in this case...charges being filed, repeat offender, etc?
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To me, it's not really about any of that. If you're the kind of guy who thinks it's funny to join in a gang stomping, you need to find another place to play football. I would cut Myles less slack, simply because he was already on notice.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Same thing I said I thought Pearl should do. Ask your players what their individual involvements were. Then investigate. Anyone who lies to you is dismissed permanently. Those who tell the truth, you deal with in accordance with what they did. I will say, I have a tough time envisioning a scenario under which Myles should stay.
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I agree, him being a student at the University of Tennessee should be brought to an abrupt end.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
Question for you. I am not sure of your area of expertise in your law career, but I was wondering if the resisting arrest charge on Da'Rick for "tensing up" as I believe it was said is common place? (Note: I saw it posted that it was listed as that in the affidavit although I have yet to read it fully) Likely to stick?
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I mostly practice criminal defense. Resisting arrest is certainly an "eye of the beholder" offense. The affidavit seems iffy. However, and I don't mean this as an insult to officers, policemen aren't professional wordsmiths. I'd be interested to see what the officer testified constituted "tensing up" to him. My guess is that that case doesn't get that far. Unless there are some additional facts to be considered, that case if exactly why the pretrial diversion statute exists.
 
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If a broad brush gets utilized here to either dismiss everyone with no regard for individual actions, or if is used to sweep as much under the rug as possible, then this whole thing is likely to come unhinged and wind up a pile of burning wreckage on the bottom of a cliff.
 
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I agree it's his time to shine and punishment should fit the crime, that is if everything being said and printed is actually fact. You never really know, that's the problem.Some people love prejudging situations.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I mostly practice criminal defense. Resisting arrest is certainly an "eye of the beholder" offense. The affidavit seems iffy. However, and I don't mean this as an insult to officers, policemen aren't professional wordsmiths. I'd be interested to see what the officer testified constituted "tensing up" to him. My guess is that that case doesn't get that far. Unless there are some additional facts to be considered, that case if exactly why the pretrial diversion statute exists.
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If you want my take, I wouldnt consider it resisting either. Seems weak to me
 
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