Our Projected Final Recruiting Rank (Revisted)

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DoubleDFan said:
I live in South Alabama and people here are starting to panic. There is a rumor going around that Saban to Texas is a done deal.

I need more popcorn :popcorn:
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Little nicky wont go out after blowing the iron bowl, I want the SOB to stay because it will make it better when we start kicking there azz, please you little piece of chit stay don't go to TEXAS and run from the BUTCHER.:birgits_giggle:
 
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I doubt Saban leaves Bama, but if he did, my guess would be Smart becomes the Tide's new coach.
 
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UTvol1fn said:
you aren't factoring in that they can sign more than just 20 total players with the newest recruits possibly being higher rated than some of their current commits. Same goes for Tennessee...we can increase our point total by landing higher rated recruits.

You are looking at this in the simplest way possible and your logic is flawed.
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I was looking at the current standing of all lower recruiters.

If you would like instead of being a woman and complaining you could contribute in a positive way.
 
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I really don't care where our class ends up ranked.I already know it will be the highest in quite a few years. And even more importantly it is filled with kids that really want to be here. I can't wait to watch us get back to where we are supposed to be.
 
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pualsline said:
I was looking at the current standing of all lower recruiters.

If you would like instead of being a woman and complaining you could contribute in a positive way.
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I'm not trying to be a dick. All I'm saying is that your logic is flawed. The way I read it was you were only factoring in point values for the recruits it will take them to get to 20 total commits. By saying ohio state needs 3 players to pass us with an average of 172 points, you are leaving out other possibilities in which they can gain points. They could land 7 more commits and still climb the rankings past us and others just by landing higher rated guys than they already have.

Really not trying to take away from what you presented, I just think it's still too much of a moving target at this point to make these "predictions".
 
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I know, I know it provides for interesting discussion and debate. But the whole premise of 'ranking' the classes is so arbitrary. And standard deviation in the accuracy of each individual players ranking only makes it even more arbitrary. Recruiting matters. Absolutely. But this idea that we can mathematically determine which schools recruiting class is better is so dumb. What it does is cause fans that refuse to use logical thinking to run around screaming "Oh no, we had the #4 class but such-and-such school just got a commitment and now they moved ahead of us!" There class is NOW BETTER THAN OURS?!?! Seriously? Look, the teams that have Top 5 classes are certainly bringing in more talent than schools ranked in the bottom 20's. But if you think Rivals, 247, or any other recruiting site has the science of recruiting figured out so well that they can definitively tell you that #3 class is better than the #4 class, and #4 class is better than #5, etc. then I dont know what to tell you.

We will finish with a class that gives us talent that is on par with any other team in the country. Bottom line.
 
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pualsline said:
First, I am going by Rivals rankings

Please remember rivals only uses your top 20 commits for rank

1.)Alabama - Will most likely remain #1. They are in on a lot of recruits with over 300 point difference.

Rank - Team - Current Commits - Points Behind Tennessee

2.)Tennessee (33)
3.)Miami (27) 333
4.)Texas A & M (18) 387
5.)Florida St.(23) 389
6.)Ohio St. (17) 518
7.)Notre Dame (19) 550
8.)Georgia (16) 588

Most likely as of now teams that have reached 20 recruits will most likley not ad enough points to pass us. That eliminates Miami and Florida St.

Texas A & M 387 points for 2 players. They have to get at least 1 5 star player and 1 player ranked 6.0 in order to pass us. They have interest (according to rivals) from 2 5 star players. Leonard Fournette (233), Tony Brown (212). If A & M gets just Tony Brown (which is very likely) they will be 175 points away. Means that they would only have to land 1 more recruit at 65 or higher then they will pass us. It is very possible for A & M to pass if they get T. Brown

Ohio State They only have to average 172 points for 3 commits to pass us. Which means 3 commits ranked 45 or higher. They are on a lot of guys radar. Very possible to pass us

Notre Dame 550 points. They would have to sign the #1 recruit twice to even have a chance to pass us. Highly Unlikely

Georgia 588 needs to average 147 or more. all of their recruits need to be above 145 in order to reach us. This is very possible.

Also, with the rankings keep in mind I am talking about the minimums that teams need. If they sign someone higher up then their next commit can be a little lower. So hypothetically if A & M flipped Hand they would get 250 points. Well, then they would only lack 137 point so they could sign someone a lot lower than what is mentioned above.

With all this, we will most likely finish 4 or 5 in recruiting. I for one am happy with this.
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Only programs that I'm really concerned about passing us are SEC programs, and especially SEC East programs.

I used to doubt that Saban would take the Texas job, unless he wanted to show that he could win an SEC at 3 different schools. Now I think he might take the job because he thinks Malzahn might want it. Or, he might decide to let Malzahn so he could then take the Auburn job to see if he could win an NC at 3 separate SEC schools. Pure speculation, but who knows when talking about an ego that size.

I don't want Franklin going anywhere for awhile. I want him to hang around Vandy for awhile to get his azz kickin' from Butch. Then he can go wherever they will have him.
 
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Also, it's a little odd to say that other schools could sign more 4*s and pass us.

Who is to say UT doesn't sign more 5*s and high ranked 4*s?

Also, 247 is a better recruiting website IMO than Rivals is.
 
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25 a year gives you a chance to have attrition that makes your program more talented instead of the other way around - basically you choosing your attrition instead of the other way around

not counting up to 25 is idiotic as it is critical to sign full classes every year to make sure you have a deep, talented football team
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
I used to doubt that Saban would take the Texas job, unless he wanted to show that he could win an SEC at 3 different schools. Now I think he might take the job because he thinks Malzahn might want it. Or, he might decide to let Malzahn so he could then take the Auburn job to see if he could win an NC at 3 separate SEC schools. Pure speculation, but who knows when talking about an ego that size.
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This is beyond speculation and entering the orbit of lunacy.
 
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UTvol1fn said:
I'm not trying to be a dick. All I'm saying is that your logic is flawed. The way I read it was you were only factoring in point values for the recruits it will take them to get to 20 total commits. By saying ohio state needs 3 players to pass us with an average of 172 points, you are leaving out other possibilities in which they can gain points. They could land 7 more commits and still climb the rankings past us and others just by landing higher rated guys than they already have.

Really not trying to take away from what you presented, I just think it's still too much of a moving target at this point to make these "predictions".
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yes you are....

does your vagina hurt all the time or just when you are on a message board?
 
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DoubleDFan said:
It will be nice to have some playmakers across the board again.
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That will happen with three classes and when they get some SEC experience which means in the 4th or 5th year into Butch's tenure. But, I agree we should see more talented players on the field at most positions for UT next season.
 
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I was wrong about some of the teams that would pass, but I was pretty accurate about our final ranking.

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I was pretty damn accurate with my percentages in a similar thread about that was around at the same time as this thread.

I think I predicted 5th with a fairly high percentage chance of 6th.
 
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We finish 5th unless Florida gets Adoree or Carter.

Can't ask for better than that
 
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