Our potential QB with Heupel

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#76
I predict CJH will choose the qb that is the best combination of smart and tough, not necessarily the best arm talent. He was a lot like Kellen Moore, safe checks, great timing/anticipation and was a coach on the field. I’ll trust his pick, and be confident that whoever starts actually does give us the “best chance to win.” I know it’s a cliche we're pretty tired of at this point but he’s actually a good qb guy, as opposed to previous iterations we’ve suffered through.
 
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VolInNW said:
If he had remained at UT, that might have been more true than not.

Swear to goodness that kid had some magical power over head coaches. I wonder if Heupel would have fallen victim.
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I’ve thought about it for a while, and I think it was a bit of coaches wanting JG to be the guy because he was such a great kid. I think we all cheered for him at points, I was and still am a huge fan of his character on and off the field. I badly wanted his first half performance against UGA to continue and him be a great story for us. It sounds like the incompetence at the top would never have let that be the case. I predict he’ll be very successful at Wazzu.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Feels really weird, but I think we're actually in good shape at QB. Not sure who will be starter, but QB room of Bailey, Salter, Maurer, and Hooker is pretty strong.

I'm worried more about the running game next year. Both Chandler and Gray would've fit very well in Heupel's offense, but both are now gone. I don't know that any of the other Pruitt RBs are going to be a great fit. Hope I'm wrong, but suddenly feel like RB is a huge weakness.
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RBs is all about smalls, Hodge & the 3 recruits, but one sounds like he might want to leave.
 
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2GeeZ4VolZ said:
I’ve thought about it for a while, and I think it was a bit of coaches wanting JG to be the guy because he was such a great kid. I think we all cheered for him at points, I was and still am a huge fan of his character on and off the field. I badly wanted his first half performance against UGA to continue and him be a great story for us. It sounds like the incompetence at the top would never have let that be the case. I predict he’ll be very successful at Wazzu.
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Gonna agree with this. From all reports, a great kid. And let's face it, he took some of the most savage hits I've ever seen a Tennessee QB take. Bounced right back up and took the next snap.

I blame JP for putting him out there w/o proper coaching, and Weinke (and his Heisman) for utterly failing to coach him as well. You gotta teach these kids that the game moves 2-3x as fast as HS.

I think everyone wishes him the bast at Wa State.
 
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#1ManningFan said:
But yet we got fans already being critical of him. Noodle arm? Really? Need to work on his deep ball? SMH. As if he had chemistry with his wide receivers all season. You folks criticizing him aren’t even arm chair coaches. You’re idiots.
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Yes, Homer, He has a noodle arm and rarely sets his feet before the throws. He needs to get better, period.
 
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Steve_Smith89 said:
Yes, Homer, He has a noodle arm and rarely sets his feet before the throws. He needs to get better, period.
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Do you ever have anything good to say about any qb? HB doesn’t have the strongest arm. I’ve told people that since he was a recruit but I’d hardly put it in the “noodle arm” category. I know he’s challenged in that department within that room but maybe you need to work on your approach in criticizing. There are SO many different verifiables that make a good qb that arm strength is a bonus, not a requirement.
 
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Southeastern VFL said:
Maurer may be a dark horse but I think in the end Bailey starts. Reason is if you look at Heupel system it is based around throwing the football and throwing it about 35 to 40 times a game. You also have to look at the stat about Hooker where he is only attempted 25 passes 5 times in his career and when he does throw that many times his teams record is not that good. I just think when you look at where the 4 QB are that with the right coaching and development Bailey has the chance to be the clear front runner at this time unless one of the others just shows something that not been seen before.
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I sort of agree...but he has to take huge strides. But I do think his quick twitch style might be the best fit. We'll see how hooker and salter look - x-factors. Hb is accurate, bit not real quick twitch and lacks some pocket presents. Lot of hit fumbles last year - BUT every QB is much better now with a real offensive staff! No more weinke chaney SMH.
 
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I think Heupel offense is more structured in concept and that it's easier to understand than what we had under Chaney, although it seems he had to water his down for "some" reason. I think Heupel makes his scheme fit the talent as and it appears he has done that in the past unlike what we had when the talent in noway fit the scheme.
 
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1vol8 said:
Do you ever have anything good to say about any qb? HB doesn’t have the strongest arm. I’ve told people that since he was a recruit but I’d hardly put it in the “noodle arm” category. I know he’s challenged in that department within that room but maybe you need to work on your approach in criticizing. There are SO many different verifiables that make a good qb that arm strength is a bonus, not a requirement.
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HB has bad ball speed and doesn't set his feet

Yes, There are different variables, but in this specific offense the QB has to be able to push the ball down the field on deep shots. This isn't a west coast offense that someone with weak ball speed thrives in.

Can he improve on that with good coaching? Yes. Easily
 
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Coach has 3 Elite 11 QB in room and a transfer whom started in ACC. Good position to be in. The QB who puts the time in extra time in film room and translate to practice field wins the Job. I do not know when Salter will be ready but I believe in future he has a chance to be AA here. In CHRIST Alone
 
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Hooker should be the QB, he'll pave the way for Salter down the line.

The guy is a proven QB, durable, makes long runs while having the arm to put the ball on the money.
 
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Steve_Smith89 said:
You're having a meltdown because I pointed out a fact. Lol. HB has bad ball speed and doesn't set his feet....fact.

Yes, There are different variables, but in this specific offense the QB has to be able to push the ball down the field on deep shots. This isn't a west coast offense that someone with weak ball speed thrives in.

Can he improve on that with good coaching? Yes. Easily
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I’m not having a meltdown. I gave my evaluation of HB back when he was a recruit and needless to say it didn’t blow over well with the masses. I told everyone he wasn’t what they were expecting. However, he’s a Vol now so I choose to focus on what he does well rather than where he falls short. I agree with you in a lot of ways outside of your approach in criticism of him and others. I agree his arm strength isn’t on the level of the others. I said that 2 years ago. There are other issues as well but all he can do is improve what’s in his control.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m not having a meltdown. I gave my evaluation of HB back when he was a recruit and needless to say it didn’t blow over well with the masses. I told everyone he wasn’t what they were expecting. However, he’s a Vol now so I choose to focus on what he does well rather than where he falls short. I agree with you in a lot of ways outside of your approach in criticism of him and others. I agree his arm strength isn’t on the level of the others. I said that 2 years ago. There are other issues as well but all he can do is improve what’s in his control.
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Pruitt ****ed HB over completely and threw him into unwinnable situations
 
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#1ManningFan said:
I swear some of you folks are ridiculous. All season ppl were clamoring for Bailey. Pruitt FINALLY puts him in once the season is pretty lost. Puts him out there in the worst scenarios to start his career. The team at that point has packed it in for the season and Bailey is being judged for the incompetence of this coaching staff?!?!

The kid got no reps in the spring. Basically no live reps in fall camp (Pruitt admitted). Weinke and Chaney did him no favors by preparing him. Bailey never whined and moaned through it all. Kept grinding away. When he did get his chance Pruitt yanked him for little things. Did it bother him? Nope. He just went to the sidelines and took notes (how many college QBs you see do that, let alone freshmen?) till his next shot.

But yet we got fans already being critical of him. Noodle arm? Really? Need to work on his deep ball? SMH. As if he had chemistry with his wide receivers all season. You folks criticizing him aren’t even arm chair coaches. You’re idiots.

For the folks saying Salter fits his offense the best tell us why. Based off what evidence? Heupel has helped coached Jason White, Sam Bradford, Drew Lock, Gabriel, etc. None of those resemble Salter. Guess who they do resemble those most in our QB room? You guessed it...Bailey. Don’t write the kid off just yet.
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I so hope you guys dont fall for one qb over the rest to the point you're slinging arrows at the other Vol QBs because you want your guy to win the starting position.

I personally dont care which of the 4 win the apot as long as the team is successful .


With that said, Looking st HS stuff, KS seems more talented. College level stuff, you just cant argue against Hooker. But for excitement... BM is ery fun to watch. If HB is the guy i will be rooting like crazy for him. However, IMO, he will hab6e to out work the other 3 to win the job..


I do agree with you that calling him a noodle arm was dickish and dumb by the poster you quoted. I have no idea why some schlub on a keyboard would say that about a D1 qb..especially one on his favorite team..
 
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1vol8 said:
He done the same to Maurer but worse and you’ve done nothing to acknowledge that.
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I understand where you're coming from. I think we all should take a step back from the opinions we have towards our QBs and view them with a clean slate
 
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I think our QB situation is great. How many times do you have so many talented options to choose from? I think we are worrying about a problem we don't have, IF we can actually coach them.

I am not so sad we lost the running backs we did. I didn’t think either were good pass blockers. I hope the young men we have now will be better at blocking and not fall over at first contact like our previous RBs.
 
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Steve_Smith89 said:
Blind? Or just didn't watch the games where he played? Lmao

It's not like I'm sitting here saying he sucks. He should improve his footwork and that in itself will fix his ball speed issue.
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Neither...

His arm strength isnt his best feature...


See how much better that sounded ?


Of course i could have been more polite when referring to youre comment..however if you wanna cast derogatory names at UT players, then expect me.to call you dickish and dumb.
🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Neither...

His arm strength isnt his best feature...


See how much better that sounded ?


Of course i could have been more polite when referring to youre comment..however if you wanna cast derogatory names at UT players, then expect me.to call you dickish and dumb.
🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.
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Well hopefully he decides to get better so I don't have a reason to say that
 
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