OU Position Group Comparisons

#26
#26
volboy81 said:
Heard on SiriusXM today that OK is probably a lot better than anyone thinks they'll be...probably won't win Big 12, but a big sleeper team. Could be a difficult game
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It WILL be a very difficult game for us. It'll be a very good win against a very talented, quality team if we can find a way to pull it off.
 
#27
#27
KBVol said:
It WILL be a very difficult game for us. It'll be a very good win against a very talented, quality team if we can find a way to pull it off.
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Yeah pretending like it's not going to be one of the hardest games of the year is just crazy.
 
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#28
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The Sooner OL is a big question mark. We have 2 starters back at center and right guard. The projected starting left guard has been a disappointment in fall camp and has lost his starting job. Probably the biggest concern is at tackle. The projected starter at LT has been moved to RT and his replacement has been beaten out by a RS freshman. I give you the edge with this unit because of continuity. Yes, we abused your OL last year but they are a year older and have played as a group for quite some time
 
#29
#29
I know your DL is great but many are saying that ours will be the best since we had Gerald McCoy. Our front seven, as a group, is outstanding. Finally, I expect our DB to be much improved for far too many reasons to go into here. I hope our depth chart gets published over the weekend so I can give you a more thorough review. Again, this is a hard Sooner squad to analyze. Lots of talent but unproven and coming off a terrible year.
 
#30
#30
I think if we were healthy and hadn't lost any starters I'd pick UT to win. Regardless it should be an entertaining game.
 
#31
#31
owenfieldreams said:
[/CENTER]11714053]I know your DL is great but many are saying that ours will be the best since we had Gerald McCoy. Our front seven, as a group, is outstanding. Finally, I expect our DB to be much improved for far too many reasons to go into here. I hope our depth chart gets published over the weekend so I can give you a more thorough review. Again, this is a hard Sooner squad to analyze. Lots of talent but unproven and coming off a terrible year.
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A very similar thing could be said for our squad this year. Our two teams will match up extremely well IMO. I see this being an extremely close game.
 
#32
#32
Turn this to matchups by function:

Vols run vs OU run defense: could be disastrous, given Vols OLine (weak) vs Okla DLine (strong). If it weren't for the elusive talents of Hurd, Kamara, and don't forget Dobbs, it would be. As it is, let's call it a clear advantage to OU's D. Vols squeak out barely 100 yds (total) running, good for 7 points.

OU run vs Vols run defense: very similar comments, with very similar results. Okla gets 100 yds (7 pts worth) thanks purely to Perine's talent, elusiveness and power against a very capable Vols rushing defense.

So run game is a wash in points.

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Vols throw game vs OU pass defense: advantage here is to Tennessee, on mostly short-to-medium routes...again because of a limited OLine, Josh won't get enough time to go deep very often at all. He will be sacked a couple of times, and flushed out of the pocket several more. Still, his uncanny ability to scramble for a first down (I know, it's rushing, but I'm counting these broken pass play QB runs as part of the throw game), along with too many high-quality WR & TE targets for OU's D to cover at once, are enough for a total of 300 yards and three scores--say 17 pts.

Sooner throw game vs Vols pass D: almost perfectly balanced. Mayfield has a good arm and a quick eye, plus exemplary ability to keep focused downfield on his targets even while scrambling...he would be able to make things happen if he could find the time. But the Vols' pass rush is just too relentless, and will frustrate him to no end. Some early success will turn sour by mid-game. 250 yards and two scores--say 10 pts.

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Special teams: pretty balanced. Both sides think they have a good mix of skill sets all across the ST game...too early in the season to weigh which is actually better. Gonna have to call this one a wash for now.

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Team discipline: don't know enough yet about the 2015 teams, but Tennessee had a slight advantage in 2013 and 2014 in penalties (1-2 fewer penalties per game) than Oklahoma. Not enough to ascribe a point differential to, so call it a wash.

Home field advantage: standard 3 point advantage to the Vols.

Coaching Xs & Os advantage: too early to tell. Plenty of history on Stoops to know he can be an inspired (if not brilliant) play caller. Not enough Power 5 level experience to be able to judge Jones the same way, though he proved himself more than capable at Group of 5 level. But still, not proven at the top tier yet, so give a 4-pt push to Stoops.

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Sum of game aspects:
-- Vols -- 7 run + 17 throw + 3 home field = 27 points
-- Sooners -- 7 run + 10 throw + 4 coaching = 21 points

I see this game going the Vols' way, but it's gonna be a real fist fight. Neither side is going to feel untested, both are gonna sweat buckets, get battered, and donate some blood to nourish the grass of Shields-Watkins Field.
 
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#33
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owenfieldreams said:
The Sooner OL is a big question mark. We have 2 starters back at center and right guard. The projected starting left guard has been a disappointment in fall camp and has lost his starting job. Probably the biggest concern is at tackle. The projected starter at LT has been moved to RT and his replacement has been beaten out by a RS freshman. I give you the edge with this unit because of continuity. Yes, we abused your OL last year but they are a year older and have played as a group for quite some time
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Wouldn't quite say what we have is continuity. We still haven't settled on our starters, coaches are still shuffling our guys around to "find the best 5".

Our RSSr LG is out for the season, so we took our sophomore RG who is our best OL and moved him over. He'll likely be replaced by a true freshman. We still have a HUGE question a right tackle since our RT is a natural center. Our LT is reported to be better, but he's a natural guard. Our center is a RSSr who does a very good job calling protections, but just isn't very physical at all....got routinely shoved all over the yard last year.

Also, we'll likely have to keep our tightend in a good bit of the time to help block rather than send him out in routes.....tackles will need the help.

Perhaps this game winds up being a low-scoring defense-dominated game if your OL is as bad as ours. Guess we'll know soon enough.
 
#34
#34
Y'all are on dope if you think their better at RB. We ain't playin anybody this year with a backfield better than ours. Might be a team or two equal but none better.
 
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#35
#35
QB. Vols
RB. Even
OL. OU
WR/TE. Vols

DL. Vols
LB. OU
DB. Vols

Special teams: Even
Coaching: OU

Score:
Vols 4
OU 3

Vols win by 7 points or less....
 
#36
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BACKDOC said:
Yeah, the guys on the RTI podcast were saying their QB was very average. They said he was a Rick Clausen type; maybe a little better than lil Ricky.
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Uh no. I don't know crap about QB scouting. But I've watched enough film on this kid to know that he is NO Rick Clausen with his feet or his arm.
 
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BACKDOC said:
Yeah, the guys on the RTI podcast were saying their QB was very average. They said he was a Rick Clausen type; maybe a little better than lil Ricky.
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Yeah, thats why he was freshman POY in the Big 12, cause he sucks so bad.
 
#38
#38
Neither Kamara nor Mixon have suited up on a D-1 field so they're a wash at this point cause no one knows. So the RB comparison right now is Hurd vs Perine. Granted we had a crappy OL but you can't help but give the edge to Perine in that scenario. A 1700 yard back as a true FR is phenomenal.
 
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#39
#39
turambar85 said:
How bad is your o-line? I can't imagine it is worse than ours. That is at worst a draw.

And our d-line gets an edge. Change those two and you *might* be right. But I'd be curious about ST. I don't know your players there, but Medley is a fantastic young kicker, we were one of the best on kick coverage in the SEC last year, and we have electric kick returners. Punter is a question mark, but we should be at least okay there when someone wins this competition.

I'd also say that RB is close to a wash. But I'll allow a *slight* edge, out of kindness.
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I would not use the word electric, and UT kick returners in the same sentence.
 
#40
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dhb92 said:
Because he beat out the guy who beat us last year and had tremendous stats as a freshman. And our QB, while having flashes of greatness, also had struggles against the likes of Mizzou and Vandy. While I understand there are major differences in competition and that Dobbs has improved from last year I subjectively can't put us that far ahead of them at the position. Do I think at the end of the game these will still be the same? Not necessarily but we need to prove it.

As for RB, I was tempted to put even. I put an advantage to OU simply based on depth.
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By the Vandy game he had no WR's to throw to; Pig was the only WR to not be injured last yr.
 
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#41
#41
QB- OU
RB- OU
OL- OU
WR- TN
TE- Push
DL- TN
LB- OU
DB- TN
ST- TN
Coaching- OU (Until proven wrong, Big Game Bob gets the nod)

Hate it- 31- 24 OU

Will be in the Greatest Stadium in America to watch, route, pray for better ! Go Vols !
 
#43
#43
owenfieldreams said:
From the OU perspective.....

QB: Vol
RB: OU
WR: even
OL: VOL
DL: even
LB: OU
DB: Vol
ST: OU

Our OL is our biggest question mark, followed by our secondary.
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Sry, but we're WRU. Injuries hurt us last year production wise but the Vols are stacked. I'd say RB is closer to even but will concede that prediction as Kamara is unproven for TN.
 
#44
#44
Rock33 said:
QB- OU
RB- OU
OL- OU
WR- TN
TE- Push
DL- TN
LB- OU
DB- TN
ST- TN
Coaching- OU (Until proven wrong, Big Game Bob gets the nod)

Hate it- 31- 24 OU

Will be in the Greatest Stadium in America to watch, route, pray for better ! Go Vols !
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Please explain how their QB is better than Dobbs.
 
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#47
#47
QB- TN
RB- OU
OL- OU
WR- TN
TE- Push
DL- TN
LB- OU
DB- Push
ST- TN
Coaching- OU

31-26 OU
 
#50
#50
There is no possible way OU RBs are better than ours. Yes SP is a stud but Mixon is totally unproven. Where as Hurd and Kamara are proven 5* studs. I personally think Dobbs is much better than Mayfield. There is only 2 places I see where OU has the advantage, LB and OL. And it's possible they don't have those two.

Nobody really knows how our OL will be. It could be much improved. I think it will be. It seems people are using last years OL performance for predicting this years. That's a mistake. It's possible that the OL will still be bad but it's highly unlikely. I am worried about our depth but with Dobbs, Hurd and AK the OL does not have to be stellar. As far as LB is concerned, I would give OU the edge but I don't think it's as big as some think.
 
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