OU and Texas on their way to the SEC?

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onevol74 said:
If you do not want to count splits then we have only won 1 NC in 1998. Anything before 1998 is mythical anyway since very few of those championships were decided on the field by the two best teams.
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Correct - but our fanbase has a fraction of the opinion of itself as Michigan does.
 
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05_never_again said:
It wouldn't destroy the SEC...people would just laugh at Texas. Especially when Alabama beat their brains in every year.

Texas has Alabama levels of arrogance, but with a fraction of the trophy case. The only fanbase with a worse combination (relative lack of success + arrogance level) is Michigan, IMO. Within the last 15 years at least Texas has won a national title and played for another; Michigan fans talk like their program is Alabama, Ohio St, and Oklahoma rolled into one and their last outright national title was in 1948.
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Disagree, the ratio of arrogance/accomplishments is highest in Georgia.
 
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If Okla and Tx get rejected by the sec, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing them move West to the PAC. If the big12 implodes with tx and ok going to the sec, maybe something like Baylor and Okla St go west to the PAC
 
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golfballs said:
Disagree, the ratio of arrogance/accomplishments is highest in Georgia.
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I'll give you that over the last few years, UGA fans have shot up that list. But at places like Michigan and Texas, the opinion UGA fans have had of themselves for the last 4-5 years goes back eons.

At Michigan, they think they more or less invented the game. They are as high as they are in the all-time wins list because they include wins from the 1880s against Lacrosse Clubs, Cricket Clubs, and the Detroit Athletic Club (not hyperbole). They think that their school academically is on the same level as Harvard or Princeton. They have a level of pretentiousness and arrogance that exceeds any other school I've ever seen, including Texas and UGA.
 
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golfballs said:
Do people think the SEC really cares that much about who is a cultural fit? I think it’s pretty clear the conferences don’t care at all about that. It’s all about financials to them
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That's kind of why I'd like a good definition of it. Does it mean the prevailing culture in the city that the school is located in? How much they like football?

I mean, depending on how you define the term, Vandy is a horrendous "cultural fit" for the SEC, yet they are a charter member.
 
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05_never_again said:
You could say the same thing about Athens, GA, but nobody would think for a second that UGA didn't belong in the SEC. Athens is like a miniature Austin in a lot of ways.
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I don't know, Athens still has some southern charm left. Austin is pretty much Berkley east.

Either way, super-conferences will be the wave of the future and money-wise The Steers and OK probably bring in more than anyone else the SEC could add.
 
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I know Texas has the highest revenue of any athletic department in the country. So I took another look at finances, and this was crazy to me, if you strip out state funding to athletic departments, out of the 227 universities that were included in USA Today’s database, only 24 of them made a profit. 10 of those are in the SEC (12 if you want to count TX/OU), 8 from the B1G and 6 from the Big 12. None from any other conference. Considering the Supreme Court ruling on paying players (and my assumption that university funds will not be used to pay players) this seems significant.
 
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golfballs said:
Do people think the SEC really cares that much about who is a cultural fit? I think it’s pretty clear the conferences don’t care at all about that. It’s all about financials to them
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Just in marketing the conference. Not in reality, but definitely in marketing.
 
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ToddyHill said:
In my opinion, Texas is not being arrogant with this move, as it is about money, the future, and the fact they are in a terrible no win situation in the Big 12. But let me make this clear, their arrogance forming the LHN ten or eleven years ago will result in the ultimate death of the Big 12, which will also negatively impact (IMO) the futures of the remaining schools.

It's not surprising many on this forum don't understand the University of Texas. First, they are not a cultural fit in the SEC. Second, their arrogance and self-centeredness is beyond measure. It's been that way for a long time.

Ten years ago, when A&M entered the SEC, many questioned the move and wondered if we were a 'fit.' I believe those questions have been answered in the positive. If Texas is admitted, and I suspect they will (it's all about the money & power), I don't believe there will be that same enthusiasm.
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A&M is a fit, how? A&M can’t stand the thought that they’ll be overshadowed if Texas gets in. Their AD’s statement about them moving to the SEC was tantamount to “independent” than they should have followed ND’s lead and became an independent. As for Texas’ arrogance and entitlement approach, you must live very far from Tuscaloosa. And Athens. And Gainesville.
If the SEC is the greatest, than bring on the greatest or stop the bitching. Gaaaaawwd....
 
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bamawriter said:
The per team annual take goes from $44 to $60 million with Texas and OU. This is going to happen.
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I am curious about your opinion on the matter, bamawriter. I am in favor of this for the money and of how it strengthens the SEC. What about you?
 
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Adam2014 said:
I am curious about your opinion on the matter, bamawriter. I am in favor of this for the money and of how it strengthens the SEC. What about you?
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All things being equal, they wouldn't be my first choice. I'd rather have Virginia and UNC.

But all things are not equal, and the Big XII is not going to survive the 2025 rights negotiations. So Texas and OU are going to wind up somewhere, and the SEC would be stupid to let that be the Pac 12 or Big 10.
 
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hog88 said:
I don't know, Athens still has some southern charm left. Austin is pretty much Berkley east.

Either way, super-conferences will be the wave of the future and money-wise The Steers and OK probably bring in more than anyone else the SEC could add.
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I mean, perhaps, but I wonder how much of that is just personal preference/profession.

Athens/Clarke County is a pretty blue area (went 70% for Biden in 2020) and has been a hub for the arts/indie music scene for a long time. It attracts a lot of non-southerners. It has always kind of had a different feel to it than other southern cities. I suppose there aren't as many "outsiders" (i.e., non-southerners) in Athens as Austin, but Austin is also simply much larger.
 
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05_never_again said:
I mean, perhaps, but I wonder how much of that is just personal preference/profession.

Athens/Clarke County is a pretty blue area (went 70% for Biden in 2020) and has been a hub for the arts/indie music scene for a long time. It attracts a lot of non-southerners. It has always kind of had a different feel to it than other southern cities. I suppose there aren't as many "outsiders" (i.e., non-southerners) in Athens as Austin, but Austin is also simply much larger.
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I'm of the opinion we give the whole state of TX back to Mexico with an apology.
 
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