Oscars

[GroverCleveland]

So Best Picture went to a movie apparently the viewing public didn't care to see, Anora.

I cannot say that makes a whole lot of sense to me. If the primary purpose of movies is entertainment, then why would something no one watched be considered the best?

 

[kiddiedoc]

I looked at the list of prior winners, and I've seen exactly 2 of the movies (Oppenheimer and Argo) since 2010.

Seems they like to pick artsy-fartsy flicks or those with an agenda. It's certainly not a award chosen by the mass viewers.

 

[Go aeiou]

I looked at the list of prior winners, and I've seen exactly 2 of the movies (Oppenheimer and Argo) since 2010.

Seems they like to pick artsy-fartsy flicks or those with an agenda. It's certainly not a award chosen by the mass viewers.

Well, the big companys are putting out crap.
Anora should be out now. At least in cities. We left Knoxville in 2011, but it seemed there was one theatre off Kingston Pike that showed most of the good movies. The others showed the same handfull of movies.
We lived west of town so I'm not familiar with other theatres downtown or east.

 

[BowlBrother85]

So Best Picture went to a movie apparently the viewing public didn't care to see, Anora.

I cannot say that makes a whole lot of sense to me. If the primary purpose of movies is entertainment, then why would something no one watched be considered the best?

Perhaps because it was an independent film with limited distribution?

Also, some of the movies widely recognized to be among the canon of the all-time best bombed during their initial release at the box office.

Citizen Kane
It's A Wonderful Life
The Wizard of Oz
The Shawshank Redemption
Blade Runner

^ All box office bombs upon their initial release ^

* Although, they were all released in theaters multiple times with the exception of Shawshank, which remains a popular movie on streaming services to this day.

Just because a movie tanks in theaters doesn't mean it will never end up being seen and enjoyed by the masses.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Perhaps because it was an independent film with limited distribution?

Also, some of the movies widely recognized to be among the canon of the all-time best bombed during their initial release at the box office.

Citizen Kane
It's A Wonderful Life
The Wizard of Oz
The Shawshank Redemption
Blade Runner

^ All box office bombs upon their initial release ^

* Although, they were all released in theaters multiple times with the exception of Shawshank, which remains a popular movie on streaming services to this day.

Just because a movie tanks in theaters doesn't mean it will never end up being seen and enjoyed by the masses.

Thank you BB85 for this. I literally had read about The Wizard of Oz's travails about three weeks ago.

To my original point, none of the referenced films won Best Picture. But that does not invalidate your point that excellent films may take awhile to be truly appreciated.

 

[GVF]

I looked at the list of prior winners, and I've seen exactly 2 of the movies (Oppenheimer and Argo) since 2010.

Seems they like to pick artsy-fartsy flicks or those with an agenda. It's certainly not a award chosen by the mass viewers.

Both very good flicks.

And this thread demonstrates the extent to which I knew or cared that Hollywood had another 'look how good I am' event last night.

 

[n_huffhines]

So Best Picture went to a movie apparently the viewing public didn't care to see, Anora.

I cannot say that makes a whole lot of sense to me. If the primary purpose of movies is entertainment, then why would something no one watched be considered the best?

It's a really good movie but it's not made for the masses. Too much nudity and sex. The Oscars aren't about rewarding entertainment factor.

I think Dune II should have won, but Anora is fine as a winner. It wasn't an elite field of nominees but it was a pretty good group.

Bill Simmons has a theory that we would have much better Oscar winners if we waited 5 years to award them. ~10 years after the fact, nobody cares about the Shape of Water, while Get Out, Dunkirk, and Ladybird are proving to be timeless.

 

[GroverCleveland]

It's a really good movie but it's not made for the masses. Too much nudity and sex. The Oscars aren't about rewarding entertainment factor.

I think Dune II should have won, but Anora is fine as a winner. It wasn't an elite field of nominees but it was a pretty good group.

Bill Simmons has a theory that we would have much better Oscar winners if we waited 5 years to award them. ~10 years after the fact, nobody cares about the Shape of Water, while Get Out, Dunkirk, and Ladybird are proving to be timeless.

Unfortunately, we have really backed off going to the movies in the last few years, so I've actually not seen any but Dune II and thought it was a fine movie...but had nothing to compare it to. The only movie I recall seeing and immediately after the movie thought it would win Best Picture was Gladiator.

You make a good point about giving them some time. I did not see Ladybird, but the other two I thought were very good movies.

 

[bigdaddy]

So a porno won the Oscar’s. Sounds about right for those over inflated useless egos

 

[GroverCleveland]

Both very good flicks.

And this thread demonstrates the extent to which I knew or cared that Hollywood had another 'look how good I am' event last night.

Yes, I did not watch it either. Cannot recall the last time I watched the Oscars.

By the way, bit of trivia I have probably posted before, but this actor was the model used for the Oscar statue.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

I watched it. God's honest truth, it depressed me a little because I realized, I didn't know half the actors that were nominated! It's definitely not "my" Hollywood anymore. Seeing all the legends who I grew up watching in the "In Memoriam" part of the show didn't help! The peak of the Oscar's was the 90's when Billy Crystal hosted.

 

[GVF]

I watched it. God's honest truth, it depressed me a little because I realized, I didn't know half the actors that were nominated! It's definitely not "my" Hollywood anymore. Seeing all the legends who I grew up watching in the "In Memoriam" part of the show didn't help! The peak of the Oscar's was the 90's when Billy Crystal hosted.

I'm assuming since they had to reason to be forced to let D'niro speak that things went smoothly.

 

[n_huffhines]

BTW, Adrian Brody winning his second Oscar for best male actor is nuts, and puts him in a super elite class that he should not be in. He won two Oscars for playing the same guy (a holocaust survivor)? Gimme a break.

Hollywood doesn't know what's good for them. Should have been Chalamet.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I watched it. God's honest truth, it depressed me a little because I realized, I didn't know half the actors that were nominated! It's definitely not "my" Hollywood anymore. Seeing all the legends who I grew up watching in the "In Memoriam" part of the show didn't help! The peak of the Oscar's was the 90's when Billy Crystal hosted.

During the "In Memoriam" montage there is always someone I liked, who I was not aware had died. This year it was M. Emmett Walsh. It wasn't a surprise, he was obviously very old. He was one of those character actors who just had a way of showing up in a lot of good and funny movies. Like in Fletch, Raising Arizona and The Best of Times .... it was usually in a small but memorable role. Phillip Seymour Hoffman was the same way.

 

[n_huffhines]

During the "In Memoriam" montage there is always someone I liked, who I was not aware had died. This year it was M. Emmett Walsh. It wasn't a surprise, he was obviously very old. He was one of those character actors who just had a way of showing up in a lot of good and funny movies. Like in Fletch, Raising Arizona and The Best of Times .... it was usually in a small but memorable role. Phillip Seymour Hoffman was the same way.

I remember being 13 and dying laughing with my best friend at his small contribution

 

[GroverCleveland]

During the "In Memoriam" montage there is always someone I liked, who I was not aware had died. This year it was M. Emmett Walsh. It wasn't a surprise, he was obviously very old. He was one of those character actors who just had a way of showing up in a lot of good and funny movies. Like in Fletch, Raising Arizona and The Best of Times .... it was usually in a small but memorable role. Phillip Seymour Hoffman was the same way.

Walsh was also in The Jerk wasn't he?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Walsh was also in The Jerk wasn't he?

Yep.