Orangeslice13, a blessing to those around him…..Again

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vol445 said:
You are. But we all are on different parts.
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Your crap is the biggest of the reasons I don't get involved in these conversations.

I'm done with you and I couldn't care any less if you understand why.

Enjoyed it Slice, I'm out.
 
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Behr said:
I hate using the "go to heaven" or "go to hell" thing as I agree with you, but sometimes its convenient to use in a discussion to get to the point.

I genuinely don't seek Jesus just to try to get to heaven Or to stay out of hell. I hope I'm wrong about some things though. "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand".

And I don't think I'm in good standing, today.
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Nobody is in good standing by the standard. As the standard is perfection. But form an outsider you seem repentant and atoned so if I had the decision you’d be good.

Nobody is perfect
 
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Behr said:
Your crap is the biggest of the reasons I don't get involved in these conversations.

I'm done with you and I couldn't care any less if you understand why.

Enjoyed it Slice, I'm out.
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@Behr I’m the last one to tell anyone they are wrong. I don’t see how anyone thinks they have it figured out. It’s so complicated. Guess the joke missed its mark. I apologize
 
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What I mean is we make an honest effort and have to lay it before him at the end. I actually believe that is what counts. We strived to seek him in world and truth.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
here we go.

Yeshua/Jesus is not G-d. He is the only Begotten of G-d and in that very Unique but again not YHWH.
Think of it this way. If G-d was fire and there was only one fire then Messiah is an ember off of that fire. So he is begotten of the fire but not the fire.

I believe that messiah is the atonement for sins. Repentance is required for sins to be forgiven but atonement is still required for sins to be paid. (We can cover that in more detail if you want).

It is my opinion that those who believe Jesus is G-d will be forgiven that error as Yeshua has been issued all the authority of the Father.


I did not wish to answer over there. Hope this is ok.
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Good explanation Slice. I think where folks get confused is John 1 when he states that "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Most folks equate Jesus and The Word, so therefore they equate Son and Father. I really don't understand the relationship, and I don't fret over it. I think things are purposely set up so that we cannot understand everything. I do not believe that the two are equal although Jesus does have all authority. But Jesus also cannot over rule or bypass the Father.
When Jesus is asked about the end of time, the statement is made that only the Father knows the day and hour. Clearly there is a difference between Father and Son.
 
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My devotional this morning hit me between the eyes. Want to share it if anyone’s interested.
Day 21: Luke Chapters 13-15

Devotional Reading: Luke 15:1-2, 6, 9, 32



Several years ago, I read an article titled, “The Tribalization of America.” In the article, the author describes how America is at a point in its history from which few other nations/regions have been able to recover; we have found reasons to dismiss the melting pot we have always been and have determined to associate with only those people with whom we identify. Simply put, America is becoming a system of tribes, set against one another. We have divided ourselves, white against black, heterosexual against homosexual, republican against democrat, and even believers against unbelievers.



In our tribe we feel safe and, in most instances, superior to those who stand opposite of us. We see this truth in Luke 15. The chapter begins with “Now the tax collectors and the sinners were coming near Him to listen to Him. Both the Pharisees and the scribes began to grumble; saying, ‘This man receives sinners and eats with them.’” To which Jesus began to respond in parable. Jesus declares that a lost sheep that has been found should be celebrated (v.6), a lost coin that has been found should be celebrated (v. 9), and a son, once lost but now found, should be celebrated (v. 32). Sadly, the Scribes didn’t understand this fact because in their “tribalized” mindset, they believed anyone who didn’t look, act or think like them must be considered and treated as less than them.



The fact of the matter is that we aren’t to malign or look down on those who are different than us or who have different ideologies than we do. Instead, we should be praying for them, being kind, gracious, loving, patient, and forgiving of them. Isn’t this the example that Jesus is setting as He sits amongst sinners?



Let me encourage you today, take the time to include someone you might typically exclude. “Receive” someone different than you. Take the time to get to know them. After all, they are just lost. Instead of criticizing or ostracizing them, perhaps someone who loves them enough to “search” for them might bring them to the place where they are no longer lost but found.



My hope today is that in doing these things, we destroy the false boundaries of a tribalized society and move to a place where we can say as the Prodigal Son’s father said, “But we had to celebrate and rejoice, for this brother of yours was dead and has begun to live, and was lost and has been found.”
 
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superdave1984 said:
Good explanation Slice. I think where folks get confused is John 1 when he states that "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Most folks equate Jesus and The Word, so therefore they equate Son and Father. I really don't understand the relationship, and I don't fret over it. I think things are purposely set up so that we cannot understand everything. I do not believe that the two are equal although Jesus does have all authority. But Jesus also cannot over rule or bypass the Father.
When Jesus is asked about the end of time, the statement is made that only the Father knows the day and hour. Clearly there is a difference between Father and Son.
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people who are interested should take a look at the philosophy of the day with relationships the “the word”. It really helps to understand the connection John is trying to make for his readers.
 
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Luke 16-18
The hardest thing a Christian has ever been instructed to do is forgive. Although it is the kindness of God that we most need, it seems as though it’s the singular kindness of God that we have been most unable to grasp. It is difficult because it is so much easier to hold onto a grudge or unforgiveness than to humble ourselves and recognize that when we forgive others, we are reflecting Christ-like character to them. We (I) struggle to minimize myself in my hurt and magnify God through the forgiveness I am commanded to give. When we forgive, we crucify our own flesh and point others to the Christ they may not know.



This is the struggle the disciples were facing, when after Christ commands them to forgive their brother, Jesus states, “And if he sins against you seven times a day, and returns to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ forgive him (v. 4, NASB).” Immediately after Jesus says this, the apostles say, “Increase our faith (v. 5)!” They didn’t say this when they saw Jesus perform miracles of healing. They didn’t say this when they saw Jesus perform miracles of provision. They didn’t even say this during Christ’s transfiguration. It appears all of this was easier to grasp than forgiveness. However difficult, it is our Christian responsibility. Why?



I once heard a story about one of the first missionaries into Alberta, Canada. When he arrived there, the Cree Indian chief, Maskepetoon, vehemently opposed him. However, Maskepetoon ultimately accepted the gospel and received Christ. Shortly after his conversion, a member of the Blackfoot tribe killed is father. Maskepetoon rode into the village and demanded that the person responsible be brought before him. Surprisingly, when the man was brought before him, Maskepetoon had this to say, “You have killed my father, so now you must be my father. You shall ride my best horse and wear my best clothes.” In utter remorse and amazement his enemy responded, “My son, now you have killed me!” What he meant was that Maskepetoon’s own kindness and forgiveness had melted the hate in his own heart. And ultimately, it was reported that this man too received Christ.



This story highlights the greatest reason why we should be willing to forgive those who bring injustice upon us: it reflects the love (and example) of Jesus to them. In so doing, it brings them closer to a point of repentance. I encourage you, if you struggle with unforgiveness, ask God to soften your heart towards the person who has offended you. It is better to dig it out at the root than to allow it to take root and create bitterness in you.



Prayer: Heavenly Father, I thank you for your Word this morning. I find it both challenging and encouraging. I ask that you give me the ability to forgive those that might spitefully use me or who speaks ill against me. Humble me to recognize that it’s not about me but that it’s about you. Allow me to reflect you in my own time of offense so that those around me might be drawn closer to you because of my response to it. I trust that you hear my prayer and I trust that you will, as the apostles have asked of Jesus, “increase my faith” in this area. I thank you again, in Jesus’ name, Amen.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Nobody is in good standing by the standard. As the standard is perfection. But form an outsider you seem repentant and atoned so if I had the decision you’d be good.

Nobody is perfect
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I respect your religion. What confuses me is when I have gone to church or read the Bible it says the way to God is threw his son Jesus the messiah. So you don't believe that Jesus is the son of God the messiah? And why do you not believe he isn't, If that's what you believe?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
here we go.

Yeshua/Jesus is not G-d. He is the only Begotten of G-d and in that very Unique but again not YHWH.
Think of it this way. If G-d was fire and there was only one fire then Messiah is an ember off of that fire. So he is begotten of the fire but not the fire.

I believe that messiah is the atonement for sins. Repentance is required for sins to be forgiven but atonement is still required for sins to be paid. (We can cover that in more detail if you want).

It is my opinion that those who believe Jesus is G-d will be forgiven that error as Yeshua has been issued all the authority of the Father.
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read this again
 
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@Orangeslice13, what's involved in reglazing a tub? My wife & I have a cast iron tub which we think may have been refinished at one point. It has a chip in its finish which bothers my wife. Suggestions?

Edit: I think it is iron, installed when the house was new, 1960 - 1961.
 
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Start by cleaning with muriatic acid. Scrub Everything with a scrub pad and acid. Rinse and do it again. You can get porcelain repair kits/paint at any hardware store. Paint and sand in layers till the chips are all repaired 400 grit sandpaper. When it’s smooth to the touch (can’t feel a difference as you slide your hand over it.) sand entire tub with 600 grit paper. Clean it again. Then spray with your preferred glazing kit. Rust ilium is fine. You’ll need to go to a paint store to get the glaze. It you can’t spray it get a fine tip brush. Do not roll it. It’s going to take 2 coats and it will level out and not leave streaks. Do not roll it.
 
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