Opened my eyes a little bit

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Miracle615

Miracle615

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A few days ago, I would have thrown a fit if someone talked bad about our players or coaches. I didn't understand why we were being so hard on them.

Today I watched the game of Saturdays defeat, that I had taped, pressing rewind A LOT. Noticing how many times we could have took Best down if we would just have wrapped him up. Forearms to the pads don't take running backs now days, no matter how small he is. But is it right to blame the players? Yeh, a little...but these guys need to be taught how to wrap up, drag down, reach out and grab whatever the hell you can get your hands on. On Bests' little scamper to the 4-5 yard line, he was TOUCHED in the back with a forearm, TOUCHED in the leg before being knocked out of bounds 75 yards later.

On the other side, boring. Had a few plays where Erik went down the field, and a few plays that Foster and Brown looked like a FREAKIN BEAST! But that's it.

Special teams...I'm not even going to say anything.

This made me open my eyes a little bit. Yeh Fulmer and Co. are good coaches, but maybe they are not up to date with the athleticsm of te players now days. Do they not realize that, maybe they study tapes of us just like every other college football program? Maybe we should throw in some trick plays, grow some balls and go down field. I know we don't have Meachem but thses dudes are just too damn conservative.

And for God sakes, teach these guys to tackle, if my High School team missed that many tackles we couldn't walk the next day.
 
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then you've apparently had the closed (at least during football season) for several years
 
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Tackling wouldnt have helped on the punt return either, too many blocks in the back. Still woulda lost but that was pitiful.
 
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Good tackling and good instincts would really have helped. Our D looked like they didn't even know he had the ball
 
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Miracle615 said:
This made me open my eyes a little bit. Yeh Fulmer and Co. are good coaches, but maybe they are not up to date with the athleticsm of te players now days. Do they not realize that, maybe they study tapes of us just like every other college football program? Maybe we should throw in some trick plays, grow some balls and go down field. I know we don't have Meachem but thses dudes are just too damn conservative.
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You don't have to even do a lot of "trick plays" necessarily like flea flickers and halfback option passes or that stuff. Just a misdirection or a reverse every now and then to keep the defense honest. We may get luck and play a defense that is just as undisciplined and over pursues on plays like the Vols defense usually does.

But I will say this, lining Ainge up as a receiver is not a good set to be running out of. If you are gonna put Lucas Taylor/Eric Berry or whoever behind the center, put another athlete on the field that will actually pose a threat as being a receiver. Everybody in the country knew that Ainge was not getting the football.
 
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head1 said:
Tackling wouldnt have helped on the punt return either, too many blocks in the back. Still woulda lost but that was pitiful.
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I've yet to have seen the supposed block in the back. I did notice your punter tackling someone by pulling on his helmet though. edit: all those mentioned by you guys are blocks in the SIDE, which is not illegal.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You don't have to even do a lot of "trick plays" necessarily like flea flickers and halfback option passes or that stuff. Just a misdirection or a reverse every now and then to keep the defense honest. We may get luck and play a defense that is just as undisciplined and over pursues on plays like the Vols defense usually does.

But I will say this, lining Ainge up as a receiver is not a good set to be running out of. If you are gonna put Lucas Taylor/Eric Berry or whoever behind the center, put another athlete on the field that will actually pose a threat as being a receiver. Everybody in the country knew that Ainge was not getting the football.
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Good ideas:salute:
 
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droski said:
I've yet to have seen the supposed block in the back. I did notice your punter tackling someone by pulling on his helmet though. edit: all those mentioned by you guys are blocks in the SIDE, which is not illegal.
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Only us Tenn fans can see it:)
 
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I'm watching the game now, and now that I look at it....ya'll got away with some pretty dirty :censored:

Pass interference, facemask, unsportsmanlike.

Of coarse I'm being hypocritcal, cuz if it was the other way around I'd be yelling "It's football get over it!"
 
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Miracle615 said:
I'm watching the game now, and now that I look at it....ya'll got away with some pretty dirty :censored:

Pass interference, facemask, unsportsmanlike.

Of coarse I'm being hypocritcal, cuz if it was the other way around I'd be yelling "It's football get over it!"
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yeah, the officials clearly beat us.
 
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Miracle615 said:
I'm watching the game now, and now that I look at it....ya'll got away with some pretty dirty :censored:

Pass interference, facemask, unsportsmanlike.

Of coarse I'm being hypocritcal, cuz if it was the other way around I'd be yelling "It's football get over it!"
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It's football get over it! :)
 
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The only grossly bad call was on one of the runs off Cal's right side. A WR had both arms wrapped around a UT DB with two hands full of jersey right in front of the line judge- no call.

Fulmer mentioned some blocks in the back on the punt return and it isn't all that common for him to criticize officials.
 
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sjt18 said:
I'd argue that Chavis got badly outcoached by Tedford.
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We should have seen this effort from the defense coming. Every since last season's Air Force game, when the spin was that the option is tough to defend, we've seen the defense underperform. The LSU game was the worst. All we had to do was make one stop on 3rd and long and we win that game.
 
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On another view, one of the blocks was in the side. The block by #84 was in the back... and it wasn't all that close.

It is at the :12 mark in the lower left hand corner. Another block at the :11 mark was questionable.
 
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Our defense sucked pretty bad. Alot of missed tackles and generally we looked scared to throw downfield, or really do much at all. There were several questionable play calls like the pass on 3rd and 1...WTF used to on 3rd and one UT would just run it up the middle and knock somebody in the teeth. And for a second I also thought randy sanders had returned with the evidence of short passes and screens.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
We should have seen this effort from the defense coming. Every since last season's Air Force game, when the spin was that the option is tough to defend, we've seen the defense underperform. The LSU game was the worst. All we had to do was make one stop on 3rd and long and we win that game.
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...and then again on 4th and 7 and failed...
 
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:rock:They could lose every week and I would still stand behind them 100%. I'll always bleed orange and white!!!!!! GO VOLS!!!!!! They are the shizzzle for rizzle!!!!!:peace:
 
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Miracle615 said:
Do they not realize that, maybe they study tapes of us just like every other college football program? Maybe we should throw in some trick plays, grow some balls and go down field. .
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i sometimes wonder about the self scouting we do on ourselves too.

but look fellas, all the talk about the scheme, trick plays, reverses etc....i simply don't buy all that. in fact, if you really go back and look, we do go down the feild, we do run reverses, we do run misdirection, 5 wide, bring RB to the slot, last year we lined up RM as a TB a few times, we run two te sets....the offensive scheme is actually much more compex that most either think or want to admit.

and that in and of itself may be part of the problem. when the OC has to come out and "menu" plays that ought to be an indication at some point. or that we have to have a SR qb check the sideline to make a cal....that may be part of the issue.

but really, in the last game the offense simply wasn't THE issue.

the D was. the ST was. and having watched a ton of TN football over the past 25+ years, what i see is a big drop off in the Def. Talent on hand right now compared to what we had just 3 years ago. it's been a long time since i've seen a TN d line get stood up like that. no pressure. no sacks. no turnovers. couldn't stop the run. coaching is part of it not even going to argue it. but who we have up front right now is a far cry from AH, LL, DW, JH, CS, SB et al. it's a far cray from JH and JM.

they'll get better as the year goes on, and hopefully with the changes they made this week, and some of the younger guys like Ben Martin and Chris Donald develop a little, we'll be back to the way we like it.

until then....hope is all we got.
 
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droski said:
I've yet to have seen the supposed block in the back. I did notice your punter tackling someone by pulling on his helmet though. edit: all those mentioned by you guys are blocks in the SIDE, which is not illegal.
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drinking that yellow kool aid
 
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