Ole Miss to Pay Tennessee $500k for Court Storm

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VolCalls said:
We all are. Getting old sucks. LOL
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It does. I have about a 2 hour process of getting out of bed. It's so odd because there are certain things I remember so well that are further back than 99. I remember Alford's scrub team bouncing us from the dance in 99 and we would've played Duke in the sweet 16 but can't recall hosting that year. I was on campus all the time then and we'd have tournament watch parties every year in the mid late 90's on 21st and I still don't recall that regional here. I'm angry at myself. I remember the 94 one well, though, so I'm not completely gone yet.

Maybe I'll forget that 07 Ohio State sweet 16 loss soon. Or the 19 and 24 Purdue losses.
 
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Other schools have been telling their fans to let the opposing team get off the floor them go on the court. Why didn’t the Mississippi AD try to tell his fans this, then maybe they wouldn’t have gotten fined.
 
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Am I the only one that hates this? This is one of the things that makes college sports special and sets it apart from professional sports, the passion of the fans. Everyone wants to bitch about these kids sitting inside on the internet all day, yet when they do stupid college kid **** they can't live it down and people get to bs virtue signaling. If these poor kids did half the dumb **** that I did in college I swear the internet would be calling for public stonings.
 
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KTrain said:
This will never stop until someone gets killed in a freak accident. I know it has happened in European Soccer/football, but they are still rampant fans fanatics. There were 21 ppl killed in the 70s it just hasn't happened in the USA yet in sports.
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This is one of many, many fanatic-based on-field actions that resulted in massive injury and death.
 
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Savannahbayvol said:
Yep a lot of dough for the dumbest and poorest state in the country.
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As funny as this sounds, there is going to be an upsurge in security companies who can provide fencing or other apparati for crowd control. What we have here is a dilemma.
 
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VOLLeeann said:


This is one of many, many fanatic-based on-field actions that resulted in massive injury and death.
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I think you’re leaving out a lot of context on this one.

1. The pitch invasion here is hostile home supporters who sought out their team in anger after a loss. It was not a celebration.
2. The crush event happened well after the pitch invasion, in response to tear gas from the Indonesian military
3. The crush happened at the exit from the stadium, because only two exits were open while the crowd panicked trying to flee the tear gas
4. Most of the victims were trying to escape from the stands and had never reached the pitch.

This incident and other crush events at stadiums is part of why American sports has stuck to passive punishment for pitch invasions, because all of the crush events have happened in response to active measures. Even in the case of the Indonesian pitch invasion above, where hooligans were actively seeking out players and coaches, all of the players and coaches were ultimately kept safe by being evacuated quickly, not through dispersion measures.
 
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kckempf said:
I think you’re leaving out a lot of context on this one.

1. The pitch invasion here is hostile home supporters who sought out their team in anger after a loss. It was not a celebration.
2. The crush event happened well after the pitch invasion, in response to tear gas from the Indonesian military
3. The crush happened at the exit from the stadium, because only two exits were open while the crowd panicked trying to flee the tear gas
4. Most of the victims were trying to escape from the stands and had never reached the pitch.

This incident and other crush events at stadiums is part of why American sports has stuck to passive punishment for pitch invasions, because all of the crush events have happened in response to active measures. Even in the case of the Indonesian pitch invasion above, where hooligans were actively seeking out players and coaches, all of the players and coaches were ultimately kept safe by being evacuated quickly, not through dispersion measures.
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All true but the end result is fanatics on the field is an extremely dangerous situation and has to be deterred.
 
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I may be in the minority, but I think it's in the spirit of the game to allow court/field storming. I know the issues with player safety but they can rush off the field if they need to. It's more exciting and fun to watch when it's allowed and not villified.
 
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Delmar said:
How would they identify all the 500 students to make them pay? That response is so moronic that there is no need to discuss it any further. The school is responsible for paying the fine because the students caused it. It’s a SEC rule. The AD did not instigate it.

The moral to this story is never get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man. You’ll just get frustrated. End of discussion.
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Ever heard of facial recognition? If they have a pic of the student either at registration or for their ID card they can find them easily. Or they can probably get access to their Drivers license. You need to watch ID Discovery.:)
 
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All yall talking responsibility of the AD, or whatever, he could’ve done his job. It’s a lot less to pay 50 off duty cops $1000 each to stand the perimeter and hold anyone accountable to trespassing charges. And announce those intentions pregame
 
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Delmar said:
How would they identify all the 500 students to make them pay? That response is so moronic that there is no need to discuss it any further. The school is responsible for paying the fine because the students caused it. It’s a SEC rule. The AD did not instigate it.

The moral to this story is never get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man. You’ll just get frustrated. End of discussion.
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It wouldn't be that difficult using facial recognition software.
 
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VOLLeeann said:


This is one of many, many fanatic-based on-field actions that resulted in massive injury and death.
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I wouldn't say that's an applicable example for US college sports. The death toll was due to the police overreacting and using tear gas and most exits being locked. Plus it's a completely different environment as far as fan behavior goes.
 
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Zues1 said:
Put up 12 foot chain link fencing. Lol
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Pay your football team to provide security at basketball games where they think there’s a possibility of a court storming. Having 100+ huge dudes surrounding the court would be a huge deterrent.

Announce to the crowd that the court is off limits for 15 seconds to remove the visiting team then they can celebrate to their hearts content.
 
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EasternVol said:
I wouldn't say that's an applicable example for US college sports. The death toll was due to the police overreacting and using tear gas and most exits being locked. Plus it's a completely different environment as far as fan behavior goes.
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Once upon a time, this didn't exist.
 
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luvmuscle77 said:
Am I the only one that hates this? This is one of the things that makes college sports special and sets it apart from professional sports, the passion of the fans. Everyone wants to bitch about these kids sitting inside on the internet all day, yet when they do stupid college kid **** they can't live it down and people get to bs virtue signaling. If these poor kids did half the dumb **** that I did in college I swear the internet would be calling for public stonings.
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It's getting out of hand, storming the court or field should be held for something special. Like beating a rival for the first time in 15 years, beating the defending champion in the last second, or winning a championship.

Beating Tennessee in basketball is not special
 
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