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cobbwebb0710 said:
The Broncos are in a world of pain for the foreseeable future. They are stuck paying Russell Wilson($100M this year), the SeaHawks get their #1 pick this year.
I feel kinda sorry for Broncos fans...nah, not really!
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Yeah, gonna be rough for the Broncos, but I definitely don't feel bad for them! I don't like the broncos to begin with, but add in that they signed Peyton and won a championship, and nah, not feeling sympathetic.
 
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mad4vols said:
We lived on Scenic Dr. in Sequoyah Hills, out my front door it was downhill for 1/2 a mile until you hit Cherokee Blvd. Great for sledding.
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Where on Scenic? Grew up with these families: Sullivans, McCallens, Johnsons, Silers, and Bills off the top of my head. My dad grew up on Oakhurst, which can be crazy sledding. We head over to Lakeshore; only a few trees to avoid but occasionally have to bailout before hitting the fence down at Lyons View.
 
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mad4vols said:
We lived on Scenic Dr. in Sequoyah Hills, out my front door it was downhill for 1/2 a mile until you hit Cherokee Blvd. Great for sledding.
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that sounds very close to where my grandmother lived Haslams lived across street from her fpr many years, and we often sled down to the boulevard. Oakhurst, Hillvale, Alta Vista, Kennesaw among the many hills we loved
 
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@1RBFjr said:
Where on Scenic? Grew up with these families: Sullivans, McCallens, Johnsons, Silers, and Bills off the top of my head. My dad grew up on Oakhurst, which can be crazy sledding. We head over to Lakeshore; only a few trees to avoid but occasionally have to bailout before hitting the fence down at Lyons View.
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your talking about my neighbors,
dad sold our home on scenic when he moved into buckingham
grandparents built home on scenic in 1940s
dad's parents lived in holston hills
 
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@1RBFjr said:
Where on Scenic? Grew up with these families: Sullivans, McCallens, Johnsons, Silers, and Bills off the top of my head. My dad grew up on Oakhurst, which can be crazy sledding. We head over to Lakeshore; only a few trees to avoid but occasionally have to bailout before hitting the fence down at Lyons View.
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I grew up there but we moved to Ohio in the early 80’s when I was 16. I’ll ask my parents if they recognize any of those names.
 
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VolPack22 said:
Worst offseason for the Braves that I can recall in recent memory.
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Article about Swanson deal in the athletic, it's a long read, but in case you're interested:

Schultz's Between the Lines: Braves questions, Ohio State's motivation vs. Georgia

Did the Braves really want Swanson back? (Yes. And no. Mostly no)

Anthopoulos said he wanted Swanson back. He said the same with Freddie Freeman. But Anthopoulos’ actions illustrated otherwise. He tendered a relative bottom-level offer of six years totaling $100 million ($16.8 million AAV, and he reportedly never raised it). Swanson countered at some point for $140 million ($23.3 AAV), knowing he was leaving money on the table from at least one other team, but Anthopoulos didn’t even counter the counter. The lack of a willingness to negotiate, as well as the storyline of Vaughn Grissom working with coach Ron Washington this offseason on his fielding, suggests Anthopoulos had moved on from Swanson the moment the 2021 season ended. The Braves would love for you to obsess about the $177 million deal the Cubsgave Swanson because it deflects from the reality: Swanson would’ve stayed for far less, and Atlanta never intended to negotiate.

Did Swanson leave a leadership void? (Yes.)

Many downplaying the significance of Swanson’s exit are pointing to the fact he was coming off a career offensive season, as well as his first All-Star Game and a Gold Glove. But a player’s value often goes beyond numbers. Swanson exerted a lot of influence in the clubhouse, especially with younger players like Grissom and Michael Harris II, and that filled a void left by Freeman.

Anthopoulos acknowledged this: “It’s real, it’s authentic, it’s sincere. It just comes so naturally for him. Guys follow him, he leads; it’s not contrived. He lives his life that way each day. Look at the different places he hit in the lineup — eighth, seventh, second. Some guys are very particular about where they hit in the order, and sometimes it becomes a political thing. Not once in my five years with Dansby Swanson did I ever hear one gripe, one complaint, about where he hit in the lineup or what he was doing. He always had really thoughtful ideas, whether it was about our defensive positioning or the roster. It was never about himself.”

That’s not easily replaced. This isn’t to say the Braves can’t find someone else to fill that element, which is important through the ups and downs of a 162-game season, but there aren’t many obvious candidates. And two potential players who could step up might have other things on their minds (next).

Is all well with Travis D’Arnaud and Max Fried? (Not likely)

D’Arnaud and Fried, along with Ozzie Albies, seem the best suited for leadership roles, but there are lingering questions with D’Arnaud and Fried. D’Arnaud has been Atlanta’s starting catcher for most of the past three seasons and started all 32 postseason games since 2020. But Anthopoulos effectively traded six players, including All-Star DH William Contreras and pitching prospect Kyle Muller, for catcher Sean Murphy, and a team doesn’t make that kind of a deal unless it’s for an every-day player. D’Arnaud isn’t the type to complain publicly, but it seems likely he won’t be thrilled with playing backup and the possibility of a trade remains on the table. He has an attractive contract (one year for $8 million plus a club option) so dealing him for another asset wouldn’t be difficult.

The issue with Fried is far different: It’s about money. He has two arbitration seasons left, with his salary expected to balloon from $6.85 million last season to a total of approximately $32 million in 2023 and 2024. But he can’t be thrilled that the Braves have handed out long extensions to six players — notably rookie pitcher Spencer Strider — and he is still working off one-year deals. The Braves would be foolish to trade Fried but Anthopoulos’ history suggests he’s going to be wary of giving a long-term deal to a pitcher who turns 29 years old in three weeks. How Fried processes all this in 2023 will be key for the team and his own future. But barring the sides coming to an agreement, a trade certainly could be on the table next winter.
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Volprofch05 said:
Article about Swanson deal in the athletic, it's a long read, but in case you're interested:

Schultz's Between the Lines: Braves questions, Ohio State's motivation vs. Georgia
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If we trade or don’t re-sign Fried, we had better get a bonafide number 1 or Braves fans will be calling for AA’s head. I am very displeased with how he has handled the past two offseasons. I love his approach to signing the young guys to team friendly deals but he has let two great people, and players, just walk out the door whenever they clearly wanted to stay with the organization. It’s inexcusable imo.
 
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ArdentVol said:
your talking about my neighbors,
dad sold our home on scenic when he moved into buckingham
grandparents built home on scenic in 1940s
dad's parents lived in holston hills
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My dad was growing up on Oakhurst around then. Across the street from the Garlands, next to the Ayres family. He went to Sequoyah, Tyson, West, then UT.
 
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@1RBFjr said:
My dad was growing up on Oakhurst around then. Across the street from the Garlands, next to the Ayers family. He went to Sequoyah, Tyson, West, then UT.
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Did he know the Links on Oakhurst?

i began third grade at sequoyah in 1958 after we moved from nashville. Went to Tyson and West and then out of state to college in 1968, but logged many miles jogging in Sequoyah until 2000. Dad, a Knox High and UT grad, lived on Scenic through at least 2005. Grandmother lived on scenic till around 1978

Notlced you mentioned Silers. Friends of my parents for many years.
 
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ArdentVol said:
Did he know the Links on Oakhurst?

i began third grade at sequoyah in 1958 after we moved from nashville. Went to Tyson and West and then out of state to college in 1968, but logged many miles jogging in Sequoyah until 2000. Dad, a Knox High and UT grad, lived on Scenic through at least 2005. Grandmother lived on scenic till around 1978

Notlced you mentioned thin Silers. Friends of my parents for many years.
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Vance Link, on the Oakhurst end near Scenic?
 
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ArdentVol said:
Did he know the Links on Oakhurst?

i began third grade at sequoyah in 1958 after we moved from nashville. Went to Tyson and West and then out of state to college in 1968, but logged many miles jogging in Sequoyah until 2000. Dad, a Knox High and UT grad, lived on Scenic through at least 2005. Grandmother lived on scenic till around 1978

Notlced you mentioned thin Silers. Friends of my parents for many years.
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Did you ever run the Thanksgiving Day predict your time race on Cherokee Blvd? Did it several times in the 70’s? I forget the distance but you weren’t allowed to wear a watch, who ever got closest to their predicted time at the finish won, my sister won it one year.
 
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mad4vols said:
Did you ever run the Thanksgiving Day predict your time race on Cherokee Blvd? Did it several times in the 70’s? I forget the distance but you weren’t allowed to wear a watch, who ever got closest to their predicted time at the finish won, my sister won it one year.
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No, I was too young at the time. I did some early Expo races, though.
 
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