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knoxvol52 said:
What a homer.

Brooks Robinson best defensive 3rd Baseman in history.

Micheal Jack Schmidt best offensive 3rd baseman in history..

I didn't even mention George Brett ..
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I don’t care how great Robinson was defensively. You cannot look at those offensive numbers and objectively tell me he deserves to be considered the best 3B ever. Whenever you slash .267/.322/.401 for and entire career and you only have 268 home runs to your name you lose your argument. Chipper was just so far superior offensively compared to Robinson that it’s not even a discussion. I would place Chipper a notch above Brett. Once again, look at their slash lines and Chipper edges him out. Brett had that ridiculous year in 1980 but even if you look at OPS, Chipper is more impressive overall. Chipper had 5 seasons of 1.000+ OPS compared to just 2 such seasons for Brett. Schmidt is the one that has the argument due to the impressive power numbers, but let’s not forget he did admit to doing some stuff. As far as we know, Chipper did everything clean and did it during the steroid era. There is something to be said about that. Even with all the impressive power numbers, Chipper edges Schmidt in slash lines and Schmidt was also a strikeout machine. Chipper walked more than he struck out and never struck out 100 times in a season. Schmidt struck out 100+ times in a season 12 times and led the league 4 times. You can have the power numbers, I’ll take the guy that is going to average 30 HR, 100 RBI, be on base 40% of the time and hit more extra base hits, all while hitting for over .300 from both sides of the plate. Chipper is the only switch-hitter in MLB history to bat at least .300 (.303), post an OBP of .400 or better (.401) and a .500 or higher slugging percentage (.529).
 
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knoxvol52 said:
One thing I did really like about Chipper Jones, he was loyal to his team could have left via free agency but stayed..

Home grown guy who loved his team don't see that much anymore..
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He took paycuts to ensure they had a competitive team. He once took a $6M paycut, some of it was recouped in a signing bonus but you just don’t see MLB players taking paycuts like that, especially high profile ones.
 
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VolPack22 said:
I don’t care how great Robinson was defensively. You cannot look at those offensive numbers and objectively tell me he deserves to be considered the best 3B ever. Whenever you slash .267/.322/.401 for and entire career and you only have 268 home runs to your name you lose your argument. Chipper was just so far superior offensively compared to Robinson that it’s not even a discussion. I would place Chipper a notch above Brett. Once again, look at their slash lines and Chipper edges him out. Brett had that ridiculous year in 1980 but even if you look at OPS, Chipper is more impressive overall. Chipper had 5 seasons of 1.000+ OPS compared to just 2 such seasons for Brett. Schmidt is the one that has the argument due to the impressive power numbers, but let’s not forget he did admit to doing some stuff. As far as we know, Chipper did everything clean and did it during the steroid era. There is something to be said about that. Even with all the impressive power numbers, Chipper edges Schmidt in slash lines and Schmidt was also a strikeout machine. Chipper walked more than he struck out and never struck out 100 times in a season. Schmidt struck out 100+ times in a season 12 times and led the league 4 times. You can have the power numbers, I’ll take the guy that is going to average 30 HR, 100 RBI, be on base 40% of the time and hit more extra base hits, all while hitting for over .300 from both sides of the plate. Chipper is the only switch-hitter in MLB history to bat at least .300 (.303), post an OBP of .400 or better (.401) and a .500 or higher slugging percentage (.529).
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He was great being top 3 out of every 3rd baseman is a tremendous accomplishment.

Every Brave doesn't have to be the greatest at every position or every Dodger as far as that goes..

Can't compare numbers different eras..

That guy on MLB drives me crazy comparing different players from different eras.

Can't compare Apples and Oranges.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
One thing I did really like about Chipper Jones, he was loyal to his team could have left via free agency but stayed..

Home grown guy who loved his team don't see that much anymore..
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VolPack22 said:
He took paycuts to ensure they had a competitive team. He once took a $6M paycut, some of it was recouped in a signing bonus but you just don’t see MLB players taking paycuts like that, especially high profile ones.
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You two guys stop it or I'm fixing to cry. 😭
 
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