Oklahoma and Texas have reached out to join the SEC (allegedly)

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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I hate conference expansion. We won’t play half the teams for over a decade. What’s the point?
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If you went with my idea (and it’s not the only one out there), you would play everyone at least every four years and at least host every school a minimum of every 8 years
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I hate conference expansion. We won’t play half the teams for over a decade. What’s the point?
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I’m not a fan of this, but I fully expect a drastic change in scheduling philosophy after this takes place. I expect we’ll play a lot more of the SEC on a regular basis.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
The SEC and Big Ten and ACC will always exist. So will the Pac12 in some form. These will be the only conferences that matter and have been for a very long time.

Big Ten will probably ask ND one last time to join and add Kansas too and be done. If ND says no they will look at other AAU Midwest or northeast schools

ND will likely join the ACC as full time member and someone like WVU, Cincy or UConn will fill them out.

SEC is likely done for now with expansion

PAC 12 will have to make some tough choices as politically the school presidents don’t want the likes of BYU, TCU, Baylor, Okla State and Texas Tech but may be forced to take them to survive.

The rest will continue to be midmajors and the remaining Big XII mentioned above some will lose big time. Like Kansas St or Baylor may be AAC bound
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That's what I layed out.

It's hard to envision some of these things as they exist today, but the future of college athletics is going to look very different, and these moves will continue to happen because it makes the most sense financially. Unfortunately in that regard, the ACC is in the much weaker position compared to the B1G, and will be vulnerable to having more schools plucked away from them. Gordon Gee provided some insight into the B1G's realignment and basically foretold how this move to mega-conferences of 16-20 schools and the dissolution of the NCAA would happen. He's being proven right, and he said then that the ACC is in almost a no-win position, and during those talks, UVA/UNC/Duke were discussed as targets. Seeing how this is shaking out, I don't think that's any less likely than it is for Texas to join the SEC. Again all about money. The ACC is in a bad spot and they will struggle to lure anyone. I'm also skeptical about the allure of programs like UConn/Cincy who requires massive amounts of state funding, and don't "own" major tv markets. In the coming era of paid players, it seems to me that there will be huge implications to those programs as I'm doubtful university/state funds will be used to pay players
 
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Kick out A&M and Mizzou, bring in VA or UNC or FSU or Duke or Clemson or Miami or Va Tech. Align conference by geographical location again. Have conferences Duke it out in the regular season and take the top 2-3 teams (depending on how many conferences) from each to head to the Natty playoffs.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I’m not a fan of this, but I fully expect a drastic change in scheduling philosophy after this takes place. I expect we’ll play a lot more of the SEC on a regular basis.
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If schools are going to be forced to compensate players, then they will have to cut costs elsewhere, and one of the most obvious places is shelling out a bunch of money to cupcake opponents to play. Those games are also wastes in terms of opportunity cost. The TV package sell will be even better when you get more SEC match-ups.
 
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twoffo said:
In a world where Tennessee has decided it is no longer in their interest to be in the SEC.

Are we simply a franchise of the SEC? Or do we retain our autonomy?
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The money alone would dictate you ain’t going anywhere.

Then, try telling generations of Tennessee grads and fans you’re going to the ACC.

A couple people here may like it, but I am willing to bet 90% or more of the fan base would be livid
 
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dobre_shunka said:
The notion the investigation was solely manufactured by the powers that be to avoid paying Pruitt his buyout is so absurd it's an understatement to call it a whacko tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
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Stop please, you are destroying their agenda.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I hate conference expansion. We won’t play half the teams for over a decade. What’s the point?
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Exactly what I said when the rumors of A&M and Mizzou were first mentioned. Thought it would fizzle out. I was wrong. And while I feel OK and TX coming in is just as dumb? If they decide to do it, they will. For better or worse, that will be debated if it does.
 
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Maybe I'm overestimating it, but when you have a program like Texas decide that it would be better off in the SEC, that is kind of a watershed moment for where college athletics is headed, and I think it will trigger the start of a massive realignment arms race. The stakes have never been higher either as athletic department finances are about to get upended now that the supreme court has indicated that they will end the NCAA model at the first opportunity and force universities to compensate players. Schools will be desperate to find extra revenue where they can, and the biggest chunk of that is going to be the TV deal $s that super-conferences can provide. Schools with little revenue and no meaningful draw in major tv markets will lose in this. It is the professionalization of college sports.
 
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99gator said:
The money alone would dictate you ain’t going anywhere.

Then, try telling generations of Tennessee grads and fans you’re going to the ACC.

A couple people here may like it, but I am willing to bet 90% or more of the fan base would be livid
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I’m not saying ACC would be the destination, I’m simply saying keeping options open allows you have some control of your destiny and allows you to have more leverage in what the SEC does.

If we can’t envision alternatives we are doomed to always be followers.

But if because of the sweet, sweet money we can’t do anything but accept the dictates of a conference office I suppose we’ll at least be able to rant about it on Volnation when they once again do something we don’t like.
 
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twoffo said:
I’m not saying ACC would be the destination, I’m simply saying keeping options open allows you have some control of your destiny and allows you to have more leverage in what the SEC does.

If we can’t envision alternatives we are doomed to always be followers.

But if because of the sweet, sweet money we can’t do anything but accept the dictates of a conference office I suppose we’ll at least be able to rant about it on Volnation when they once again do something we don’t like.
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We have a vote in what the conference does, just like the rest of the membership.
 
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twoffo said:
I’m not saying ACC would be the destination, I’m simply saying keeping options open allows you have some control of your destiny and allows you to have more leverage in what the SEC does.

If we can’t envision alternatives we are doomed to always be followers.

But if because of the sweet, sweet money we can’t do anything but accept the dictates of a conference office I suppose we’ll at least be able to rant about it on Volnation when they once again do something we don’t like.
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It would be impossible for Tennessee to land in a position outside of the SEC and make more money than it does now. I can't imagine the SEC would pass rules that would change that.
 
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VOL_Lyfe said:
One pundit's shot at the future alignment:


Division A
Teams

Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M
Permanent Cross-Over Opponents

  • Missouri – Arkansas, South Carolina
  • Oklahoma – Florida, Vanderbilt
  • Texas – Kentucky, South Carolina
  • Texas A&M – Arkansas, Ole Miss
  • Division B
    Teams

    Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina
    Permanent Cross-Over Opponents
    • Florida – Oklahoma, Tennessee
    • Georgia – Auburn, Tennessee
    • Kentucky – Miss State, Texas
    • South Carolina – Missouri, Texas
Division C
Teams

Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
Permanent Cross-Over Opponents

  • Arkansas – Missouri, Texas A&M
  • LSU – Alabama, Auburn
  • Miss State – Alabama, Kentucky
  • Ole Miss – Texas A&M, Vanderbilt


Division D
Teams

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Permanent Cross-Over Opponents

  • Alabama – LSU, Miss State
  • Auburn – Georgia, LSU
  • Tennessee – Florida, Georgia
  • Vanderbilt – Oklahoma, Ole Miss


Pretty brutal for the Vols.
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It will be if they continue to dedicate the program to mediocrity.
 
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hog88 said:
We have a vote in what the conference does, just like the rest of the membership.
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And that vote will have less impact when two more schools are added. Is the SEC done at adding only two more?

I’m not sure why always having an exit strategy would be a bad thing.
 
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golfballs said:
It would be impossible for Tennessee to land in a position outside of the SEC and make more money than it does now. I can't imagine the SEC would pass rules that would change that.
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Assumes money is the only determinant. I don’t think it should be.
 
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twoffo said:
And that vote will have less impact when two more schools are added. Is the SEC done at adding only two more?

I’m not sure why always having an exit strategy would be a bad thing.
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There is zero need for an exit strategy. The SEC is the best conference in the country, why the hell would you want to leave?
 
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