Ok...who thinks this team is actually

#27
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teeball said:
I'm certainly no coach but ... on offense I would throw more quick slants, more toss sweeps and more QB keepers. On defense I would blitz more. Then after all this failed ... I'd quit.
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JG is slow as hell he doesn't want to run at all and already gets hit way too much not a good idea. Slants only work if the defense respects the running game because a slant is thrown in the linebacker coverage zone. Toss sweeps ok may be but whos going to block? On defense everytime we blitz the player blitzing slows down for some reason. We blitz and get burned everytime. The guys are just not good enough.
 
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landscapingvol said:
It’s not about what you would or wouldn’t call. Every team runs similar plays but they do it from multiple formations with different players. Nearly every time Amine enters the game it’s a sweep, nearly every time the fullback enters it’s a running play, etc. That can work if you have elite talent at every position but when you have questionable talent it gets you killed on offense. That is the issue
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Well said. Helton may be the worst offensive coordinator I have ever seen.
 
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Eastknox865 said:
I want someone that's complaining about coaching to tell me what would you call. On offense what throw more? They can't pass protect. Run more they can't run block. More play action qb gets hit. More what wr can't run crisp patterns to get open because they are slow and dont get separation. All they really do well is jump balls. So please all you coaches tell me what in the hell is the staff supposed to do. Because honestly I don't have a clue.
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For starters, you get Chandler involved in the passing game.
 
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landscapingvol said:
It’s not about what you would or wouldn’t call. Every team runs similar plays but they do it from multiple formations with different players. Nearly every time Amine enters the game it’s a sweep, nearly every time the fullback enters it’s a running play, etc. That can work if you have elite talent at every position but when you have questionable talent it gets you killed on offense. That is the issue
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That's my point these coaches know how to coach but it's hard to coach soft players with less talent. They may have been rated higher in high school but they have been out worked in college.
 
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Coach HC aspirations are not so good but he has one more year to show solid improvement. I saw zero improvement this year. There is a bunch of players on that
Team that drag it down. How you weed them out before they infect others is what
Pruitt needs to do soon.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Are they better coached than last year? If you look at it as a whole season, I would say yes. Have this coaching staff made huge mistakes this year? Absolutely. But, a first time HC, with a rookie OC and DC are going to make those mistakes. However, there have been some flashes of really good coaching.
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volsfanforlife73 said:
Better coached this year than last? I don’t care about the records, but this is garbage football 100%. There is zero scheming going on, on our side of the call. Helton and Sherrer are pure garbage and I honestly am done with them both.

And don’t even get me started on how terrible JG is. That kid wouldn’t start for a single other SEC team.
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JG would not start for most Group of Five teams.
 
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volsfanforlife73 said:
Better coached this year than last? I don’t care about the records, but this is garbage football 100%. There is zero scheming going on, on our side of the call. Helton and Sherrer are pure garbage and I honestly am done with them both.

And don’t even get me started on how terrible JG is. That kid wouldn’t start for a single other SEC team.
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I don’t
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Yall are freaking sad...

10 years from now you'll still be blaming a guy that doesnt coach.

This team is poorly prepared and in game adjustments are non existent
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Exactly. I'm sure we could go back and find several post defending Butch the same way. Oh we have to give him time he's using Dooley's players. Blah blah blah This coach is just another crappy hire in a string of garbage hires.
 
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volsfanforlife73 said:
Better coached this year than last? I don’t care about the records, but this is garbage football 100%. There is zero scheming going on, on our side of the call. Helton and Sherrer are pure garbage and I honestly am done with them both.

And don’t even get me started on how terrible JG is. That kid wouldn’t start for a single other SEC team.
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It’s hard to argue that we are better off at this point. And yes, JG is hot garbage.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
Apparently they can't teach proper tackling for being a bunch of experienced coaches with championship rings. Makes me worried for next year.
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Teach basic tackling? So wait a minute, is our team full of guys that have never played football? Because people have said time and time again that this team has 4 and 5* players everywhere. The tackling has been an issue for years. It was an issue last year. So tackling is a basic technique that is taught at every pee wee, middle and high school football program in the country. If you are a college football player, how is it that you sont know how to tackle properly? Thats not on our coaches.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Teach basic tackling? So wait a minute, is our team full of guys that have never played football? Because people have said time and time again that this team has 4 and 5* players everywhere. The tackling has been an issue for years. It was an issue last year. So tackling is a basic technique that is taught at every pee wee, middle and high school football program in the country. If you are a college football player, how is it that you sont know how to tackle properly? Thats not on our coaches.
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Lol. What a stupid thing to say. So is teaching tackling part of player development or not? Guess they don't do tackling drills at the college level.
 
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volsfanforlife73 said:
Better coached this year than last? I don’t care about the records, but this is garbage football 100%. There is zero scheming going on, on our side of the call. Helton and Sherrer are pure garbage and I honestly am done with them both.

And don’t even get me started on how terrible JG is. That kid wouldn’t start for a single other SEC team.
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It’s a choice between dumpster fire #1 or dumpster fire #2.
 
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Eastknox865 said:
I want someone that's complaining about coaching to tell me what would you call. On offense what throw more? They can't pass protect. Run more they can't run block. More play action qb gets hit. More what wr can't run crisp patterns to get open because they are slow and dont get separation. All they really do well is jump balls. So please all you coaches tell me what in the hell is the staff supposed to do. Because honestly I don't have a clue.
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For one, I'd like my coach to be able to subtract 15 from 31 in his head and realize we need to go for 2 without having to call a time out.

I'd also like a coach who is smart enough to realize that, despite the truth of the statement, it is incredibly stupid to verbalize the need to recruit over the current roster.

As far as today's game specifically, I think you are vastly overstating how bad our receivers are. Plays designed to hit them over the middle would be nice. About the only one I remember was a big gainer to JJ at the end. Instead we either throw deep passes to the sideline or dink and dunks by the line of scrimmage.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
Lol. What a stupid thing to say. So is teaching tackling part of player development or not? Guess they don't do tackling drills at the college level.
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like I said, tackling is taught at every single level of football from pee wee to college. How many upperclassmen do we have on defense? Tuttle? Taylor? Phillips? Bain? DK? Bituli? Buchanan? Osbourne? Warrior? Johnson? So if these guys have been going through tackling drills for the past 6-10 years and they still cannot do it, whose fault is that?

So serious question, at what point to you hold players accountable for their execution on the field?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
like I said, tackling is taught at every single level of football from pee wee to college. How many upperclassmen do we have on defense? Tuttle? Taylor? Phillips? Bain? DK? Bituli? Buchanan? Osbourne? Warrior? Johnson? So if these guys have been going through tackling drills for the past 6-10 years and they still cannot do it, whose fault is that?

So serious question, at what point to you hold players accountable for their execution on the field?
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A fair point. It's still a stretch that we just missed on that many highly rated recruits. We saw good play, especially from the defense, at times this year. What the heck happend?
 
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