OK...real thoughts..who can we beat

#55
#55
volfan4evr said:
Best case - 6-6
Worst case - 4-8
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If we lose 8 games this season, Dooley will be run out of town on a rail. Tennessee has never lost 8 games in a season and I don't see it happening this year.

9/4 UT Martin Win
9/11 Oregon Loss
9/18 Florida Loss
9/25 UAB Win
10/2 @LSU Loss
10/9 @Georgia Loss
10/23 Alabama Loss
10/30 @South Carolina Loss
11/6 @Memphis Win
11/13 Mississippi Win
11/20 @Vanderbilt Win
11/27 Kentucky Win

6-6
 
#56
#56
Volunteeer said:
I know. I didn't mean to Sound like I'm arguing with you. What your saying is reasonable. I guess my point is that looking at our situation as it stands I'm not even sure we can put all three of those games in the toss up category. We have a LOT of questions to answer right now. If the qb play is like was in 08, I don't even think those five are givens. Or if the line doesn't jell into a really good unit, same result. Or if we get the same lb play we got after the injuries this year, we will get run over by everybody, and I mean everybody. Will some of these things turn out favorably? Odds are they will, but if even one does not, then I think five or six is the ceiling.
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The QB and oline are legitimate concerns. I'm not sold on Stephens, but I'm not sure a true freshman is the way to go either. Maybe Simms is the answer. Only time will tell. The oline is a huge concern. We are woefully thin, and the guys we have couldn't beat out two undersized walk ons. After the way this unit was exposed by VT, I'm not very optimistic heading into 2010. As for the LB play, I think much of the poor play can be attributed to inexperience. The thing is that many of the young guys got significant playing time. If Frazier and Reviez can come back healthy, then I think the LB position will be in pretty good shape.

Having said that, I still see no way that we lose to Martin, UAB, Memphis, or Vandy. And until they prove me wrong, I always put UK in the win column. Now it's not out of the question that we don't win another game besides those 5, but I have to think we will pull an upset or two along the way.
 
#58
#58
utkell65 said:
If we lose 8 games this season, Dooley will be run out of town on a rail. Tennessee has never lost 8 games in a season and I don't see it happening this year.

9/4 UT Martin Win
9/11 Oregon Loss
9/18 Florida Loss
9/25 UAB Win
10/2 @LSU Loss
10/9 @Georgia Loss
10/23 Alabama Loss
10/30 @South Carolina Loss
11/6 @Memphis Win
11/13 Mississippi Win
11/20 @Vanderbilt Win
11/27 Kentucky Win

6-6
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I could see UT losing to both Miss and Kentucky and finishing 4-8.
 
#59
#59
Just to add some perspective here, UF will have 45-50 JRs and SR's on the roster next year. This whole idea that UF will be young and inexperienced is a myth.

The offensive line will have 4 senior starters, the defensive line will probably have 4 Sr starters, there will probably be at least 2, maybe 3 sr starters at LB, and there will be 2 JRs and 1 SR starting in the secondary. (Don't know who will take Hadens spot yet).

WR will have a JR and a SR starting, then probably some 3rd year sophomores. The QB will be a 4th year Junior.

The RB's will all be JR's and SR's.

So in what way is UF a young team in 2010? The answer is, they aren't young.

UF did lose some big name players, and sure, UT could win, but not because UF is young and inexperienced.

Right now, although it's early, I like Florida in this game by Two TD's with all of UT's depth issues.
 
#60
#60
AFL2008 said:
Just to add some perspective here, UF will have 45-50 JRs and SR's on the roster next year. This whole idea that UF will be young and inexperienced is a myth.

The offensive line will have 4 senior starters, the defensive line will probably have 4 Sr starters, there will probably be at least 2, maybe 3 sr starters at LB, and there will be 2 JRs and 1 SR starting in the secondary. (Don't know who will take Hadens spot yet).

WR will have a JR and a SR starting, then probably some 3rd year sophomores. The QB will be a 4th year Junior.

The RB's will all be JR's and SR's.

So in what way is UF a young team in 2010? The answer is, they aren't young.

UF did lose some big name players, and sure, UT could win, but not because UF is young and inexperienced.

Right now, although it's early, I like Florida in this game by Two TD's with all of UT's depth issues.
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Somewhat experienced? maybe. But in what system? Tim's not htere to run the ball up the gut everytime they need 4 yards. They're gonna have to finally throw the ball and the new qb is not TEbow. They're basically starting all over again like we are. yes they've got more depth and yes they've got more players returning that are Juniors and Seniors. But their system is about t completely change and the game will be in Neyland and it will be a new qb against a new qb. Pretty equal playing field I'd say.
 
#62
#62
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Somewhat experienced? maybe. But in what system? Tim's not htere to run the ball up the gut everytime they need 4 yards. They're gonna have to finally throw the ball and the new qb is not TEbow. They're basically starting all over again like we are. yes they've got more depth and yes they've got more players returning that are Juniors and Seniors. But their system is about t completely change and the game will be in Neyland and it will be a new qb against a new qb. Pretty equal playing field I'd say.
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To think Tennessee and Florida will be on an even playing field next year just because Tebow is gone is just bad logic.

The system won't change that much. A few more passing attempts per game, and less QB runs, but the basic offense will be the same. The play calls aren't changing. The coaching staff has a few new names, but that's college football.
 
#64
#64
The Ole Miss game at home IMO is huge I think that will be difference between 6-6 and a bowl game or 5-7 JMO though
 
#65
#65
I'm totally behind the Dooley hire and I think he'll do well here but next season will be an unmitigated disaster..... 4-8 is a distinct possibility.... 2011 will begin the road back to respectability. Just be ready because next season will not be one for the scrapbooks..... scrap HEAP maybe, but not one we'll remember fondly.....
 
#66
#66
I'm going for 6 wins, but it's going to be really tough to say... a lot will depend on what kind of play we can get from the QB and how well our O-Line can come together.
 
#67
#67
I hope Dooley has some tricks up his sleeve. We still have a lot of talent... I hope we can be pleasantly surprised.
 
#68
#68
AFL2008 said:
To think Tennessee and Florida will be on an even playing field next year just because Tebow is gone is just bad logic.

The system won't change that much. A few more passing attempts per game, and less QB runs, but the basic offense will be the same. The play calls aren't changing. The coaching staff has a few new names, but that's college football.
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I hope the system doesn't change much post-Tebow. No QB can take the punishment Tebow took. Y'all will be on your 3rd string QB by game 5.

And Tebow was your whole team last year. I think its very good logic to say we will be very competitive at our own house against Florida this year without him.

Its very possible our O-line could be decent, especially since we won't have depth issues in week 3. And we ran all over y'all last year.

I think Florida is our only surprise next year, possibly LSU. 6 or 7 wins max.
 
#69
#69
tenn_opie said:
why is everyone so sure that UF will beat us? I know they've got the #1 class coming in, but they are loosing a TON of important players. Their qb will not have that much time to get adjusted to the big stage before we play them in the 3rd game. I know N.Stephens is a toss-up. If he comes out playing so-so, with GJ and DM still there, that should make his job a little easier. Not to mention some of the talented WRs coming in. UF's newbies will not be up to full speed by the 3rd game. They MIGHT beat us. But i'm not as sure about a loss, at home, to a UF team that has no superman now. It will be close, and the big orange, IMO, has a helluva shot at pulling this one off!
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i know this will be painful, but i can't let this slide.

1. tennessee is not the big stage. not at the moment. tennessee is barely over .500 over the last 4 seasons.

2. florida is very comfortable playing in the friendly confines of neyland stadium. they won in 1994, 1996, 2000, 2002, 2006, and 2008. the two losses were in 1998 in overtime and 2004 on a last second field goal.

3. as another poster commented, they will not be a young team. i'm not going to go into the detail that the other poster did, but if you want to continue to believe that florida is going to put out a bunch of freshman, than have fun with that.

4. when was the last time tennessee had a win against a team that finished the season ranked?
 
#71
#71
VolsRule said:
Florida and bama will be the only tough games. Hopefully, UT upsets one or both.
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You got rocks in your head if you don't think Oregon will be tough... along with LSU and Georgia. Even the Columbia gas pumpers won't be a pushover next year.
 
#72
#72
VolsRule said:
Florida and bama will be the only tough games. Hopefully, UT upsets one or both.
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I think Oregon, LSU, Miss, South Carolina, Georgia and even Kentucky will be tough for the team returning. UT could finish 5-7 again. I'm hoping 7-5.
 
#73
#73
In 1988 UT went 5-6 . The talent level was not that great other than at running back . In 1989 UT went 11-1 smoking Arkansas in the cotton bowl , only loss coming at bammer. They will not go 11-1 next year but with a little luck no major injuries and a solid running game they could win 8 /9 , I look for 6/7 but I think 8/9 is possible. Oregon , UF, Bama , and at LSU are going to be tough. They can play with uga , uscjr , and ole miss . I will not drink the scjr kool aid like everyone did the ole miss kool aid last season. Ole miss waxed us but that was the holdup week and we all know the team was distracted , + the d coordinator we had is gone and he could not coach up his guys to stop wildcat , direct snap to back b.s. and we all know it . We will be as good as this year if we can run the ball . If we can't were screwed. GO VOLS
 
#75
#75
volstexans said:
I hope the system doesn't change much post-Tebow. No QB can take the punishment Tebow took. Y'all will be on your 3rd string QB by game 5.

And Tebow was your whole team last year. I think its very good logic to say we will be very competitive at our own house against Florida this year without him.

Its very possible our O-line could be decent, especially since we won't have depth issues in week 3. And we ran all over y'all last year.

I think Florida is our only surprise next year, possibly LSU. 6 or 7 wins max.
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Tennessee only had 210 yards of offense and 117 yards rushing. They didn't run all over anyone. And oh, the guy who ran for 99 of those yards? Montario Hardesty is in the NFL now.

I said Florida will be MOSTLY the same, but that the QB will RUN LESS and PASS MORE. Similar to the 2006 offense with Chris Leak and Tim Tebow, players like Jordan Reed will line up in various wildcat formations.

UF will be more talented at the skill positions in 2010 than in 2009, and UT has to replace a lot in that defense. UF will be coming in with 4 senior starters on the offensive line and a defense dominated by talented juniors and seniors. Even if UT keeps it close, depth will become an issue in the 4th.

If this was the first game of LAST YEAR, I would be more worried, but the fact is, the recruiting holes and the transfers of the past 2 years will have the biggest impact on Tennessee in 2010, and they won't be able to compete for 4 quarters with teams like Florida.
 
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