ok, my take

#76
#76
ChattaTNVol said:
I am really looking forward to watching this game.

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Just the way I feel...:eek:lol:
 
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#83
#83
The Vols will need a touchdown from a punt/kickoff return or a pick six to win. If not, we lose IMO.
 
#84
#84
apevol said:
I've never seen so many Gator and Vol fans tripping over each other to tell the other their team's gonna win. Hell, my next door neighbor is a Gator, and we spent an hour trying to convince each other why our respective teams would lose.
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Who won, you or the Gator neighbor?
 
#88
#88
99gator said:
Ok, here’s my two cents. I’ve dropped a good number of hints here and there.

Basically, it boils down to the following. I am not sold on Tennessee being a “good” football team, yet. However, I am sold on them not being a “bad” football team. I am also sold on the fact that Florida is a “bad” football team.

Where each team is weak, Florida is weaker. Tennessee’s offensive line may not be good, but they don’t have three true freshman starting/getting a heavy amount of snaps. Josh Dobbs may not be a Heisman QB, but he’s not a 1st year starter who’s job isn’t totally secure. And if the QB and offensive line actually do its job from time to time, which group of skill position guys would you bet on to make a play given the opportunity…. Taylor, Callaway, Robinson, Powell (I know a lot of you are thinking “who?”) or Hurd, Pig, North, Pearson, etc.

I think this game is absolutely critical for Butch Jones because I believe every sunshine pumper on this board is 100% correct. If Butch Jones is the man to lead Tennessee to where you all want them to go, Tennessee wins this game. IMO, if Tennessee loses, he will never get the fan base back. In addition, God help Tennessee when Florida actually fields a football team that isn’t cut off at the knees. It’s put up or shut up time. Florida’s bad. We all know they are bad. If you can’t win this game, then you need to find a new bricklayer.

I don’t think it will be a cake walk. I think Florida will come to play and play hard. I think being at home will help. I think the fact that Tennessee still finds ways to lose instead of win will also help to keep the game fairly close. Florida has athletes who will make the occasional play. But, they just don’t have enough bullets in the gun. Tennessee is going to have around 16 possessions to score 3 or 4 times. Some of them may come with good field position. They should be able to do that. While Florida is good defensively, they are not the 85 Bears. They can be had and plenty of teams in recent years have managed to have enough offensive success to beat the Gators.

The only thing I would be concerned about is making mistakes early that get Florida going with the adrenaline of playing at home. Tennessee being stuck on stupid is where I pin most of my hopes and sadly, for you all, that’s not out of the realm of possibility. Tennessee has a host of WR who should be playing on Sundays soon. Find ways to get them the ball. Florida will play a lot of man on man coverage. Throw a few balls up and let those guy try and go get it. Some may end up incomplete. A couple may get picked. But, they should also be able to hit a few.

I think Tennessee this year is where Florida may be next season when some of these freshman have the opportunity to drink milk and eat their Flintstones vitamins.

Tennessee 20
Florida 16
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The vast majority of the fanbase is still behind Butch, despite the vocal minority on here.
 
#93
#93
Tenacguy50 said:
Gloom, despair and agony on me...woooah!
Deep dark depression, excessive misery...woooah!
If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all..woooah!
Gloom, despair and agony on me... :)

edit: just realized 3/4 of VN will not recognize this little song.
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Went to Gainesville to watch some sports...

There were dudes with mullets wearing jorts...

We’re up 20-zip…no way we’re losing Skip...

Til they scored 21 points with a minute left in the fourth

Woooah….hoooo….hoooo
 
#96
#96
Cool story br...

Just kidding. Good analysis. Thanks for sharing. I hope you guys find a way to lose. If not, we will.
 
#97
#97
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
By some of the knuckleheads sure. Most of us are intelligent enough to realize that another coaching change right now would be devastating.
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At what point would you call it quits on him?

If we don't best Florida, it raises serious concerns about progress

Progress in football is winning more games than you did and beating people you didn't beat last season

If you want to move from mediocre to good, you have to lock down your mediocre games and beat a good team that you weren't expected to

Florida was a POOR team las year and we lost. This year they are mediocre. If we want to move from mediocre to good, we have the beat them. I'm tired of 5-7 wins. Beat Florida and get 8 wins

A loss would raise very serious concerns about whether progress is happening

I'm behind butch while we see progress. Plateauing will make me question him more
 
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#98
#98
99gator said:
Ok, here’s my two cents. I’ve dropped a good number of hints here and there.

Basically, it boils down to the following. I am not sold on Tennessee being a “good” football team, yet. However, I am sold on them not being a “bad” football team. I am also sold on the fact that Florida is a “bad” football team.

Where each team is weak, Florida is weaker. Tennessee’s offensive line may not be good, but they don’t have three true freshman starting/getting a heavy amount of snaps. Josh Dobbs may not be a Heisman QB, but he’s not a 1st year starter who’s job isn’t totally secure. And if the QB and offensive line actually do its job from time to time, which group of skill position guys would you bet on to make a play given the opportunity…. Taylor, Callaway, Robinson, Powell (I know a lot of you are thinking “who?”) or Hurd, Pig, North, Pearson, etc.

I think this game is absolutely critical for Butch Jones because I believe every sunshine pumper on this board is 100% correct. If Butch Jones is the man to lead Tennessee to where you all want them to go, Tennessee wins this game. IMO, if Tennessee loses, he will never get the fan base back. In addition, God help Tennessee when Florida actually fields a football team that isn’t cut off at the knees. It’s put up or shut up time. Florida’s bad. We all know they are bad. If you can’t win this game, then you need to find a new bricklayer.

I don’t think it will be a cake walk. I think Florida will come to play and play hard. I think being at home will help. I think the fact that Tennessee still finds ways to lose instead of win will also help to keep the game fairly close. Florida has athletes who will make the occasional play. But, they just don’t have enough bullets in the gun. Tennessee is going to have around 16 possessions to score 3 or 4 times. Some of them may come with good field position. They should be able to do that. While Florida is good defensively, they are not the 85 Bears. They can be had and plenty of teams in recent years have managed to have enough offensive success to beat the Gators.

The only thing I would be concerned about is making mistakes early that get Florida going with the adrenaline of playing at home. Tennessee being stuck on stupid is where I pin most of my hopes and sadly, for you all, that’s not out of the realm of possibility. Tennessee has a host of WR who should be playing on Sundays soon. Find ways to get them the ball. Florida will play a lot of man on man coverage. Throw a few balls up and let those guy try and go get it. Some may end up incomplete. A couple may get picked. But, they should also be able to hit a few.

I think Tennessee this year is where Florida may be next season when some of these freshman have the opportunity to drink milk and eat their Flintstones vitamins.

Tennessee 20
Florida 16
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Gator99,

First, your analysis stands perfectly to reason.

Do you think the 'snake-bit factor' plays into this? Their is a truly astounding history of UT inexplicably imploding or just flat-lining against UF. Even going back to Peyton's serial turnovers resulting in something like a 35-0 first quarter. Peyton seemed snake-bitten against Florida. Tense, poor decisions, etc.

Now, ten losses in a row through entirely different eras..
I must wonder if a psychological barrier has not gotten in the heads of UT. I don't think Tebow sends angels to shut us down : ) He's a class guy.

I'll hang up and listen.
 
#99
#99
KBVol said:
Agreed. The overwhelming majority of fans who have voiced concerns about Butch's coaching are still very much behind him.
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Yep! Even me. Well, to be fair, I was only screaming for Debord's scalp before I settled down and put away the hatchet.
 
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