Ok hunh?

[Other_Guy]

No, again.

TCU hasn't affected recruiting until the past season. They sucked before last year. Same with Baylor but maybe the past 2-3 seasons. That happens.

The real key is Texas A&M. Them being successful in the SEC is the real pipeline bomb. So yes, while OUr recruiting in TEXAS now has more competition, we've been going out west to Cali getting players. And snagging a few kids from SEC states. But we still recruit heavy in Texas....and there's always a standout kid from Oklahoma itself.

TCU suckes before last year???

 

[kentucky sucks]

Are you dumb? Mike leach invented the air raid/modern college offense at Oklahoma..its where it all started...LOL some of you guys.....:lolabove:

Are you dumb? Hal Mumme and Mike Leach invented it at Iowa Wesleyan. Mumme used it at UK in 1997. Leach didn't get to OU until 1999. Kapooyah sooner!

 

[Biopsyman]

Mike Leach has really bad hair

 

[kentucky sucks]

Mike Leach has really bad hair

Carpet or drapes?

 

[JohnMcA60]

OU has the best winning percentage in the modern era. The most wins of any program since stoops took over in 99 and 16 recognized titles. Let's not get into a pissing match with these two programs all time. TN is an awesome program and true blue blood but isn't on the same planet. All time OU: .792 TN: .680 pretty big gap there boys.

Will your all time record win you the game tomorrow or are you just answering a question. I have no idea how this started but OU is historically a better program but that doesn't win you games now.

 

[ntxVOL]

I find it hilarious that TxA&M came into the "vaunted" SEC with an entire roster full of existing Big 12 kids, including a RS Johnny Manziel(a lowly 3-star Big 12 recruit) and immediately had monster success. Not gonna lie, even us Big 12 ppl bought into the hype a bit thinking the SEC was really an untouchable division. But not after that....

Then Mizzou playing their gimmicky Big 12 offense made it to the SEC title game the following year, led by a BACKUP qb, again with a roster of 75% EXISTING Big 12 players/recruits.

Yet neither of these schools could even make Big 12 title games.

I'm not a conference pumper like many of you SEC folk, but the Big 12, in case you forgot, routinely kept 3-5 teams in the top 10 polls in the mid-late 00 seasons. Mizzou, OU, Tex, OSU, A&M, KSU....all were successful. Even in it's temporary state, the only true weak links are ISU and Kansas. There's 8 outta 10 teams(maybe not Tech) in this conf who can talent-wise line up with anyone on any Saturday.

OU went into the Superdome and beat Alabama. Then TCU flat dismantled Ole Miss in front of an SEC crowd. Worst ass whippin i've seen in a few years.

You're drinking the kool-aid heavy, but consider that most of these kids are all recruited by every conference. They can go anywhere they choose, and they don't automatically become stars by going to the SEC. Now I'm not saying we'll win or lose this Sat., but your "big boy football" rhetoric is laughable anymore.

We play college football.

The Big12 has a title game?

You forgot how that A&M team dismantled the "One True Champion" in the Cotton Bowl.

Mizzou hasn't done anything but win a down east division.

As for the teams in the rankings, it's easy to keep 2 or 3 teams ranked in that crap conference.

You guys like to puff your chests out talk about how great your program is but it's a lot of smoke and mirrors. OU is Tx's ***** and will be from now on. You go as they go and you do as they do.

 

[DuckinVol]

Riley said in an interview before the 1st game, we'd go fast when needed and slow it down when we need to.

This isn't Kevin Wilson's offense of hurry, hurry, hurry.

Typically speaking, regardless of the OC in recent years, we'll go fast after a successful play. If we get a screen pass go for 20+, we're prob going fast next play. Quick slant goes for 15-20, we're prob going fast next play.

Every OU fan doesn't know what they're looking at as I'm sure (and learning) some Vol fans don't either.

I certainly understand varying the tempo due to situations within each game. Just read so many folks on the OK boards talking about an incredibly fast paced offense, and it didn't appear to be in the limited amount of the Akron game I watched. Number of plays didn't appear to match a HU scheme either. As I mentioned, a lot can happen in a game to alter the numbers, and I was asking for clarification.

How's this? Riley pushed an average of almost 90 plays per game at his last gig. OK is going to have to really turn on the heat to hit that average this season. Will he actually run the same pace he liked before, or is it being slowed down for a reason?

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I certainly understand varying the tempo due to situations within each game. Just read so many folks on the OK boards talking about an incredibly fast paced offense, and it didn't appear to be in the limited amount of the Akron game I watched.
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Will he actually run the same pace he liked before, or is it being slowed down for a reason?

I think what Riley wants, and what he can get out of this particular group of players (looking most esp. at that OLine) are two different things.

He tries to keep the engine at 5,000 RPM for too long, and he's going to have linemen passing out. They're not yet ready for his Air Raid speed.

Consequently, no OU game this season is likely to see 90 plays per game out of them. Our offense has far more potential to push the fast game at this point than OU's.


p.s. Dunno if their numbers are right, I've seen different #s quoted, but according to this site, Tennessee and BGSU both ran 88 offensive plays last weekend; Oklahoma ran "just" 76. https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/plays-per-game/

 

[AWR90]

The Big12 has a title game?

You forgot how that A&M team dismantled the "One True Champion" in the Cotton Bowl.

Mizzou hasn't done anything but win a down east division.

As for the teams in the rankings, it's easy to keep 2 or 3 teams ranked in that crap conference.

You guys like to puff your chests out talk about how great your program is but it's a lot of smoke and mirrors. OU is Tx's ***** and will be from now on. You go as they go and you do as they do.

OU has only been in the same conference as texas recently and the BIG 12 was easily just as good as the SEC until about 2010. OU is still the top program all time according to your media darling ESPN. Even they cannot deny the overall domination OU has had on the sport of football.

 

[utvolpj]

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Please check the board rules on name-calling and insults. They might be a bit different than you're used to at other sites

 

[DuckinVol]

I think what Riley wants, and what he can get out of this particular group of players (looking most esp. at that OLine) are two different things.

He tries to keep the engine at 5,000 RPM for too long, and he's going to have linemen passing out. They're not yet ready for his Air Raid speed.

Consequently, no OU game this season is likely to see 90 plays per game out of them. Our offense has far more potential to push the fast game at this point than OU's.


p.s. Dunno if their numbers are right, I've seen different #s quoted, but according to this site, Tennessee and BGSU both ran 88 offensive plays last weekend; Oklahoma ran "just" 76. https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/plays-per-game/

We're thinking along the same lines. Just hoped a Sooner fan might have some specific insight, but my hope was in vain.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

OU has only been in the same conference as texas recently and the BIG 12 was easily just as good as the SEC until about 2010. OU is still the top program all time according to your media darling ESPN. Even they cannot deny the overall domination OU has had on the sport of football.

No, AWR, just no.

The SEC has dominated the B12 for practically that league's entire existence. From the B12's creation in 1994 to Tom Osborne's retirement in 1997, you could make a case for the B12's prowess, but that is thanks to Nebraska (NCs in '94, '95 and '97) rather than Oklahoma.

From 1998 on, the B12 has been largely a bridesmaid on the national stage. You did have that one great year in 2000; otherwise, the conference has been a doormat for others.

Don't embarrass the truly great accomplishments of the Bud Wilkinson and Barry Switzer eras by trying to put Bob Stoops' tenure up on the same platform. Stoops is a good coach, don't get me wrong. But he is no more the equivalent of those past greats than Phil Fulmer and Johnny Majors are matches for Robert Neyland.

Oklahoma likes to talk about "blue bloods." You certainly are that, in spite of significant down periods in your history. So is Tennessee. The fact that we're just now emerging from one of our own down periods doesn't change the fact.

Two great programs ought to be able to show each other respect without making ridiculous claims. Let's do that.

 

[cwhitevol30]

Can we just play football already?

 

[AWR90]

No, AWR, just no.

The SEC has dominated the B12 for practically its entire existence. From the B12's creation in 1994 to Tom Osborne's retirement in 1997, you could make a case for the B12's prowess, but that is thanks to Nebraska (NCs in '94, '95 and '97) rather than Oklahoma.

From 1998 on, the B12 has been largely a bridesmaid on the national stage. You did have that one great year in 2000; otherwise, the conference has been a doormat for others.

Don't embarrass the truly great accomplishments of the Bud Wilkinson and Barry Switzer eras by trying to put Bob Stoops' tenure up on the same platform. Stoops is a good coach, don't get me wrong. But he is no more the equivalent of those past greats than Phil Fulmer and Johnny Majors are matches for Robert Neyland.

Oklahoma likes to talk about "blue bloods." You certainly are that, in spite of significant down periods in your history. So is Tennessee. The fact that we're just now emerging from one of our own down periods doesn't change the fact.

Two great programs ought to be able to show each other respect without making ridiculous claims. Let's do that.

Wrong....again. The big 12 was easily on the same level of the SEC from 2000-2010. I think you are forgetting all those title runs from OU and texas every other year in that time period. I will give the SEC credit in 2008 for shutting down OUs record offense without demarco murray playing. But regardless of that OU and Texas could play with any team in the sec during that time period. Add in the fact that MU KU TTech and Nebraska were all very good during that time frame and theres easily an argument for the big 12. You need to jog your memory past the last 5 years and give respect where it is due.

 

[TOP]

Overall, they ran a play on avg 4 seconds slower than BGSU. Fairly similar to UT's pace for most of the game.

You're taking the average... I didn't watch the game, but I assume Okie slowed it down after the half while milking the clock. They were probably running plays a lot quicker earlier in the game. In Bowling Green's case, they had no reason to slow up from behind.

Just saying that I don't think comparing averages is fair. Oklahoma most surely let off the gas while BG was going for it all from behind. Oklahoma during a game that matters is probably running their offense more quickly than even a desperate BG team.

 

[Midnight Toker]

Who knows what we'll see saturday- i bet both OC will open up a few plays that you did not see last week. I saw an OU offense trying to be as vanilla as you can get away with while also trying their brand of offense for the first time. Tenn D has to show up or it will be a real long day.

 

[Jasooner]

The Big12 has a title game?

You forgot how that A&M team dismantled the "One True Champion" in the Cotton Bowl.

Mizzou hasn't done anything but win a down east division.

As for the teams in the rankings, it's easy to keep 2 or 3 teams ranked in that crap conference.

You guys like to puff your chests out talk about how great your program is but it's a lot of smoke and mirrors. OU is Tx's ***** and will be from now on. You go as they go and you do as they do.

unfortunately, you're behaving like a woman so there's no logic in arguing with you.

The Big 12 had a title game, one of the most impactful title games from year to year along with the SEC, but we have less teams now than before, so we don't have one.

Let's try this......when the Pac-10 was.......10 teams, they had no title game.......when the Big 10 was 11 teams, they had no title game. The Big 12 is (temporarily) 10 teams.....so what does that tell you?

What does Texas A&M beating us have to do with anything? They've beaten us in the Big 12 before, and when they beat us, its' usually a sound defeated. And they beat us again with Big 12 players.

Our program speaks for itself. Texas hasn't been good since they lost Colt McCoy and Bama beat them 5-6 years.

If all you're going to do is respond by throwing stuff to the wall and seeing what stick, then stop.

 

[AWR90]

You're taking the average... I didn't watch the game, but I assume Okie slowed it down after the half while milking the clock. They were probably running plays a lot quicker earlier in the game. In Bowling Green's case, they had no reason to slow up from behind.

Just saying that I don't think comparing averages is fair. Oklahoma most surely let off the gas while BG was going for it all from behind. Oklahoma during a game that matters is probably running their offense more quickly than even a desperate BG team.

That's true the average wont tell the story. OU didn't play starters after the 3rd Q and was hitting some big plays in the second half that signifigantly dropped the number of plays. That being said there was one point where OU went a full 80 yards for TD in 60 seconds running 13 plays I think.

 

[DuckinVol]

You're taking the average... I didn't watch the game, but I assume Okie slowed it down after the half while milking the clock. They were probably running plays a lot quicker earlier in the game. In Bowling Green's case, they had no reason to slow up from behind.

Just saying that I don't think comparing averages is fair. Oklahoma most surely let off the gas while BG was going for it all from behind. Oklahoma during a game that matters is probably running their offense more quickly than even a desperate BG team.

Top,
Maybe, but it honestly appeared they sped up a bit as the game wore on. I could be mistaken about that, but it wouldn't be shocking considering a new OC in his first game with the team. That same OC averaged over 85 per game last season.

 

[o3marine52]

Just a great video both OU and the real UT fans should like.

https://youtu.be/BCIYIwGrhOs

 

[DuckinVol]

That's true the average wont tell the story. OU didn't play starters after the 3rd Q and was hitting some big plays in the second half that signifigantly dropped the number of plays. That being said there was one point where OU went a full 80 yards for TD in 60 seconds running 13 plays I think.

Best I can tell, OK got a play off every 36 seconds. That's certainly not slow. UT got a play off every 38 seconds. BGSU got a play off every 30 seconds.

 

[ButchPlz]

I hope the OK fans I encounter tomorrow aren't this cocky.

 

[ntxVOL]

Wrong....again. The big 12 was easily on the same level of the SEC from 2000-2010. I think you are forgetting all those title runs from OU and texas every other year in that time period. I will give the SEC credit in 2008 for shutting down OUs record offense without demarco murray playing. But regardless of that OU and Texas could play with any team in the sec during that time period. Add in the fact that MU KU TTech and Nebraska were all very good during that time frame and theres easily an argument for the big 12. You need to jog your memory past the last 5 years and give respect where it is due.

It's as much about where you're going as where you've been. That's the big difference. Your program is hanging to relevance by a thread. Our programs are heading in two different directions.

So keep on spewing crap about what your program has done but there's nothing but dark clouds ahead for Sooner Nation IMO.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Are you dumb? Mike leach invented the air raid/modern college offense at Oklahoma..its where it all started...LOL some of you guys.....:lolabove:

No, it's not. Started @ UK.

 

[AWR90]

It's as much about where you're going as where you've been. That's the big difference. Your program is hanging to relevance by a thread. Our programs are heading in two different directions.

So keep on spewing crap about what your program has done but there's nothing but dark clouds ahead for Sooner Nation IMO.

LOL That is actually just funny you think OU is going somewhere or that we are at a disadvantage in any way. tell you what ill come back here after we clownstomp you like last year and get your opinion on the direction of Oklahoma football.