Official OC search update thread...

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#451
WAVol said:
I think you guys that are crying about Butch already selecting Coach D for the OC position are way off the mark. It is very possible that D ends up with the Vols coaching the OL, and that it would be a great hire. My call is that Butch offers the OC position to Mazzone first, and that would be the best available choice for the Vols!
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LWS in another thread said he thought it was DeBord unless someone else impressed Butch more.
 
#452
#452
DaddyChad said:
Meltdown doesn't really matter until the results on the field. If Jones feels he is the guy then he is the guy for better or worse. It doesn't matter what the VN court of public opinion thinks of the hire right now, it will however matter at the end of next season.
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I don't fully disagree but it can have an effect on recruiting.
 
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onevol74 said:
LWS in another thread said he thought it was DeBord unless someone else impressed Butch more.
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What kind of statement is that?

Isn't that how every single vacancy in any kind of field is filled? The candidate that impresses you the most gets the offer...
 
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golfballs said:
What kind of statement is that?

Isn't that how every single vacancy in any kind of field is filled? The candidate that impresses you the most gets the offer...
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You know, that might actually work.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
I don't fully disagree but it can have an effect on recruiting.
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Yeah but Jake wasn't a guy that was just tearing it up on the recruiting trail. He's a good recruiter and a solid OC but I don't think he's just remarkable at either. He did pretty much seal up Dormady but outside of him I can't remember another player that he played a role in to a great degree. At best he wouldn't be in the top five recruiters on the staff. Azzani would have a more significant impact IMO if we lost him.

Debord will have to have some success on the field though or it won't matter either way. I do think that will happen if he is the guy. He will have more success than Jake just because of depth and talent being greater and already having a better QB situation from the start. The other thing is Debord has extensive experience at the position which has been the Achilles for this offense, the offensive line. I don't know if he is the guy whether it would be a great or remarkable hire but I do feel the offense will be much better moving forward regardless.

The big question is what happens with Mahoney and what happens with QB coach
 
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DaddyChad said:
Yeah but Jake wasn't a guy that was just tearing it up on the recruiting trail. He's a good recruiter and a solid OC but I don't think he's just remarkable at either. He did pretty much seal up Dormady but outside of him I can't remember another player that he played a role in to a great degree. At best he wouldn't be in the top five recruiters on the staff. Azzani would have a more significant impact IMO if we lost him.

Debord will have to have some success on the field though or it won't matter either way. I do think that will happen if he is the guy. He will have more success than Jake just because of depth and talent being greater and already having a better QB situation from the start. The other thing is Debord has extensive experience at the position which has been the Achilles for this offense, the offensive line. I don't know if he is the guy whether it would be a great or remarkable hire but I do feel the offense will be much better moving forward regardless.

The big question is what happens with Mahoney and what happens with QB coach
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I agree with this. DeBord will probably take over the line and Butch is out there shopping for a QB coach. That makes sense.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Yeah but Jake wasn't a guy that was just tearing it up on the recruiting trail. He's a good recruiter and a solid OC but I don't think he's just remarkable at either. He did pretty much seal up Dormady but outside of him I can't remember another player that he played a role in to a great degree. At best he wouldn't be in the top five recruiters on the staff. Azzani would have a more significant impact IMO if we lost him.

Debord will have to have some success on the field though or it won't matter either way. I do think that will happen if he is the guy. He will have more success than Jake just because of depth and talent being greater and already having a better QB situation from the start. The other thing is Debord has extensive experience at the position which has been the Achilles for this offense, the offensive line. I don't know if he is the guy whether it would be a great or remarkable hire but I do feel the offense will be much better moving forward regardless.

The big question is what happens with Mahoney and what happens with QB coach
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Austin Kendall said he is pretty firm to us but that Coach Jake was the main reason he committed
 
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#466
Apologies if already posted:
We've learned that Tennessee's group conducting interviews, led of course by coach Butch Jones, met in the past 24 hours with candidates in Las Vegas at or near the airport.

Those meetings have concluded, and Tennessee's group has moved to the East Coast to visit with commitment Darrell Taylor and also, we are told by two sources, meet with one more candidate.

As noted, the Vols were very intrigued by Mike Norvell at Arizona State, but the candid indication that any negotiations would have to begin at $1 million was a deterrent.

Additionally, Mike Sanford and Noel Mazzone have been the other coaches confirmed of interest by the Vols, as well as North Carolina's Gunter Brewer and N.C. State's Matt Canada. We also are told Jones' agent, Trace Armstrong, facilitated discussions with some NFL assistants who demanded anonymity because of their current contracts.

Nothing has changed to suggest any candidate has emerged to overtake clubhouse leader Mike DeBord, who also is apparently mulling an offer that could include an assistant head coach title with the NFL's Atlanta Falcons.
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One more from the recruiting forum that I thought was interesting. Props to BleedorangeinGA on the original post.
I had a very interesting conversation today with my brother in law who is a Michigan fan and alum. He lives in Arizona now and we only talk a handful of times a year but had to call him today in regards to a family matter. We started talking our usual small talk about football. I asked him what he knew about Mike DeBord, I told him Tennessee was looking at him in regards to OC. I made the statement that I didn’t see how the style of play was a good fit for CBJ. He went on to say it would actually be a good fit, I asked how do you figure? He went on to tell me Lloyd Carr dictated what type of offensive scheme to run, and DeBord was simply following along.

Here is where our conversation got interesting, he said in the month leading up to the Capital One Bowl against Florida, DeBord approached Lloyd Carr explaining their current offense wasn’t a good matchup against Florida and recommended they open it up as he knew how to attack Florida in space. Reluctantly Carr agreed, they spent a month of practice working on the spread getting ready for the game. My brother in law keeps up with and watches Tennessee football also because my sister is a Tennessee alum. He said, when you have time go watch the Capital One Bowl, it’s the same offense Butch runs.

That day Michigan won, and put 41 points up against Florida and had their D tripping over themselves. Now I’m not saying this is proof he is the “man” but after watching this I can certainly see why Butch is talking to him. After that game Lloyd Carr retired, Rich Rod was hired and DeBord took a position as O Line coach with Seattle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFIAoIPSKek

(not sure link will work, first time adding youtube link)
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That actually looks a lot like Butch's offense. A little more passing (which I like). I'd be ok if that was actually debord making the calls.
 
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