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#727
#727
n_huffhines said:
DVR has made me forget how bad most commentators are.

I love Collinsworth because he is better at breaking down the details. He'll tell you when a play is setting up a play you should expect later in the game. "Expect them to run the hitch-and-go later" and then they do and it totally works.

I love Gruden for his enthusiasm.

Everybody else is white noise, IMO.
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Mayock? (NFL channel Thursday night game) is amazing in what he sees and explains - like a live breakdown. His delivery isn't great but the content is the best in the business.

Agree with Gruden - enthusiasm, tone and analysis. Collinsworth too.
 
#728
#728
n_huffhines said:
DVR has made me forget how bad most commentators are.

I love Collinsworth because he is better at breaking down the details. He'll tell you when a play is setting up a play you should expect later in the game. "Expect them to run the hitch-and-go later" and then they do and it totally works.

I love Gruden for his enthusiasm.

Everybody else is white noise, IMO.
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I like CC alot as well. Most are homers to offense or defense depending on where they played. CC is pretty down the middle. Its refreshing.
 
#732
#732
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#733
#733
BigOrangeTrain said:
How many rings does Peyton have without the best O line and his great offensive players? 0
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Were they that good? Addai didn't do **** elsewhere. Neither did Rhodes. Neither did Clark. Definitely Wayne and Harrison were amazing, but Moorehead was a terrible #3. OL was legit, but the best?
 
#734
#734
volinbham said:
Hawks likely - Niners ?

Hawks D is amazing and enough. Hawks O was unimpressive against the Saints. Hawks have some bad losses on their schedule that are hard to explain.

Niners are a reflection of the coach - swagger and amazing play or meh/meltdown at random intervals. Niners' talent is off the hook. Coaching?
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Admittedly I'm a homer, but SF coached the regular season safe as to not hurt Kaep. I fully expect them to keep loosening the reigns. I do worry.about going to.Seattle. I just don't think the AFC winner can handle either team. I think they are clearly the best all around teams. But we will see.
 
#737
#737
n_huffhines said:
Were they that good? Addai didn't do **** elsewhere. Neither did Rhodes. Neither did Clark. Definitely Wayne and Harrison were amazing, but Moorehead was a terrible #3. OL was legit, but the best?
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I'll agree all day if you talk d, but outside of Moss for a year and a half, Gronk and Welker who has Brady had? Corey Dillon at the end of his career? No their oline was not the best but it was top 5 imo.
 
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#739
BadJerry20 said:
Admittedly I'm a homer, but SF coached the regular season safe as to not hurt Kaep. I fully expect them to keep loosening the reigns. I do worry.about going to.Seattle. I just don't think the AFC winner can handle either team. I think they are clearly the best all around teams. But we will see.
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49rs have the best talent in the league period- explaining their record this year is tough. They should have 2 losses max with 3 being barely understandable.

Seahawks play as a team and with insane swagger at times. My conclusion is Carroll > Harbaugh the way Belick > everybody else.
 
#741
#741
volinbham said:
49rs have the best talent in the league perios- explaining their record this year is tough. They should have 2 losses max with 3 being barely understandable.

Seahawks play as a team and with insane swagger at times. My conclusion is Carroll > Harbaugh the way Belick > everybody else.
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Again, I think they have played cautious so.Kaep doesn't get hurt. Do I.agree with it? Not at all, but I feel SF has been slowly opening up the Playbook. We will see tomorrow.
 
#742
#742
BadJerry20 said:
I'll agree all day if you talk d, but outside of Moss for a year and a half, Gronk and Welker who has Brady had? Corey Dillon at the end of his career? No their oline was not the best but it was top 5 imo.
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I thought Graham, Watson, Welker, Stallworth, and Moss went unrivaled as a group until the Broncos this year. Branch was good too. Branch failed in Seattle, but that was due to injury. His numbers per game matched what he put up with Brady. Troy Brown, too. He was underrated for his size, but people forget he put up 83 catches before Brady.

Watson was so underrated. He left NE and got 68 catches with Colt McCoy throwing to him.

I do agree that Brady has had nowhere near the weapons Manning has enjoyed, but when you compare OLs over their careers, it's not even close. When you have time in the pocket, anyone can get open.
 
#744
#744
n_huffhines said:
I do agree that Brady has had nowhere near the weapons Manning has enjoyed, but when you compare OLs over their careers, it's not even close. When you have time in the pocket, anyone can get open.
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One may or may not factor this into the "who's better" debate but I'd say Peyton had a major role in making Harrison a hall of famer. Wayne had the goods but was quite raw and undisciplined out of school.

Indy thrived with a weak D and a dynamic O; but not a power O.

Pats consistently had a better D, and better coach.
 
#745
#745
n_huffhines said:
Were they that good? Addai didn't do **** elsewhere. Neither did Rhodes. Neither did Clark. Definitely Wayne and Harrison were amazing, but Moorehead was a terrible #3. OL was legit, but the best?
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Well Peyton is the least sacked QB in the NFL since he started playing. I think he's the third least sacked QB of all time. Stokely, Garçon, Collie, James, Utect, Tamme I mean he has had some very good offensive players.
 
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#746
BigOrangeTrain said:
Well Peyton is the least sacked QB in the NFL since he started playing. I think he's the third least sacked QB of all time. Stokely, Garçon, Collie, James, Utect, Tamme I mean he has had some very good offensive players.
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He also has the quickest snap to release average in the NFL*. Pass protection isn't just about offensive line. Receivers have to get open, RBs have to pick up the blitz, but maybe the most overlooked is that QBs have to make pre-snap adjustments and get rid of the ball. Nobody is better at that than Manning.

*I'm projecting based on a stat I saw around 2009, where Manning was leaps and bounds ahead of the next fastest guy.
 
#749
#749
I hope Denver and Carolina win today and will be pulling for Denver to win it all. This should be Peyton's to win
 
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