Official Major League Soccer/US Men's National Team Thread

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JohnMarxism said:
not sure if serious...
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Dead serious. See those top teams? In what European leagues do they play in? How many play on top tier teams? Since 1994 the US has failed to keep any player on a top team for any beneficial length.

Our best player pro league wise is Howard, and he is a goal keeper... The US needs center mid's and forwards able to compete in the top leagues in Europe..not in the USA. MLS is where the Europeans come to play Over 30 ball...
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Dead serious. See those top teams? In what European leagues do they play in? How many play on top tier teams? Since 1994 the US has failed to keep any player on a top team for any beneficial length.

Our best player pro league wise is Howard, and he is a goal keeper... The US needs center mid's and forwards able to compete in the top leagues in Europe..not in the USA. MLS is where the Europeans come to play Over 30 ball...
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Agreed to an extent. But I'd argue that Ghana was slightly more talented than us and we beat them. But to your point, if we don't clean it up, and quick, we'll be dismantled by Germany and Portugal.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Dead serious. See those top teams? In what European leagues do they play in? How many play on top tier teams? Since 1994 the US has failed to keep any player on a top team for any beneficial length.

Our best player pro league wise is Howard, and he is a goal keeper... The US needs center mid's and forwards able to compete in the top leagues in Europe..not in the USA. MLS is where the Europeans come to play Over 30 ball...
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Whatever man. I hate the attitude that sprinkling magical euro pixie dust on somebody will make them a better footballer. There may come a time when american players feature for top European sides, but it won't be any time soon. European clubs won't take Americans seriously for the same crappy circular logic people use to bash mls. The only, and I mean only, way that the us will ever grow into a footballing force is to develop the mls into a world class league so that our farm systems can produce the best of the best.
 
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#1,781
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Not to deny the problems we saw tonight, but we just did something with a roster of little WC experience, that I've watched us fail to do for the past 8 years. Beat Ghana. Im a happy fan this day.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I thought we looked like garbage. Very fortunate to get 3 points. Bradley was nowhere.
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Agreed. But we lost two critical players and found a way to win somehow. I've got to think Bradley will be back to his usual self next game and that should help our possession and attacking.
 
#1,784
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Very happy for the win although I feel like Germany got 6 points today. Guess I'm a xenophobe.

I'm digging the Google banner that has the US & Ghana eagles in their nests and ours has two hatched eaglets while their's has one.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Wasn't our best performance by a long shot, but 3 points is 3 points, ESPECIALLY in a must win WC game.
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Apart from that early goal, it looked like we regressed six years this match. Instead of pressuring we gave them tons of space. We looked timid and our touch was horrid. Worst of all, we looked out of shape and lost several players. Drastic improvement must happen or Portugal and Germany will make us look foolish.

All that said, we got the win against Ghana!!!

[YouTube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0J2QdDbelmY&feature=kp[/YouTube]
 
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Alex Morgan posted this on Twitter.

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milohimself said:
Whatever man. I hate the attitude that sprinkling magical euro pixie dust on somebody will make them a better footballer. There may come a time when american players feature for top European sides, but it won't be any time soon. European clubs won't take Americans seriously for the same crappy circular logic people use to bash mls. The only, and I mean only, way that the us will ever grow into a footballing force is to develop the mls into a world class league so that our farm systems can produce the best of the best.
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As long as soccer is fighting hockey for the 4th most popular team sport and the elite US athletes continue to drop soccer in their teens, that will be tough.

Imagine if just a small percentage of the guys that are pro football/baseball/basketball, or even competitive in college, stuck around to make a career out of soccer. I know there's a large population to work with, but the interest isn't there yet.
 
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milohimself said:
Whatever man. I hate the attitude that sprinkling magical euro pixie dust on somebody will make them a better footballer. There may come a time when american players feature for top European sides, but it won't be any time soon. European clubs won't take Americans seriously for the same crappy circular logic people use to bash mls. The only, and I mean only, way that the us will ever grow into a footballing force is to develop the mls into a world class league so that our farm systems can produce the best of the best.
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I agree. MLS appears to be on the right track and what you say about developing is what has to happen (and what I want to happen). But our professional league with about 20 years experience is competing against other leagues who have been around for a century. I feel we need guys in top leagues on the top teams and starting. I'd prefer homegrown talent to Euro talent. But right now we need our best playing against the best from Europe. You play against the best and you become better yourself.

Another issue though is youth development. I played soccer for over 22 years and in middle school began playing on club teams. I eventually moved on to Olympic development. The amount of money my parents spent to put not only me but my younger brother through ODP and soccer camps across the country had to be outrageous. Most people wont be able to afford that and it will steer them away from the sport. I feel US Soccer is failing in regards to proper youth development.
 
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TheDeeble said:
As long as soccer is fighting hockey for the 4th most popular team sport and the elite US athletes continue to drop soccer in their teens, that will be tough.

Imagine if just a small percentage of the guys that are pro football/baseball/basketball, or even competitive in college, stuck around to make a career out of soccer. I know there's a large population to work with, but the interest isn't there yet.
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Thats the good thing about MLS. When I was growing up playing soccer the idea of becoming a professional was distant as we had no league. It was more of a means to an end to pay for college. Now that we have a ton of pro teams kids can see the possibility of making money from playing.
 
#1,800
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Man of the match (to me) was Jermaine Jones. Even Matt Besler was pretty outstanding before his injury.
Worst game I've ever seen Michael Bradley play as a national player.
He'll remedy that for Sunday.
 
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