Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVII

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My girlfriend lives in hazel green, I live in Tennessee thankfully. Alabama fans in Alabama are the most annoying humans to roam the earth. They have no clue what they’re talking about half the time and most know nothing about their own team. I know more about Alabama’s team than half of their fans do. Most annoying fan base ever.

And all the fantastical, fictitious NCs.

You can't make this chit up... They claim a NC in a year in which they finished 24 in the AP poll.
 
My worst experience was with Gator fans. Bama fans were respectful, and Dawg fans only cursed me out. Gator fans wanted to fight.

Georgia hands down for me... Although, it was nice watching them make the walk of shame after cussing at me for 4 hours :).
 
No offense to Swain, but he seems easily pleased. More so than most fans. Him saying Currie has a long list of options that Swain is happy about doesn't instill any confidence in me at all. Makes me feel more like the big dawgs are off the table and its going to be someone like Dan Mullen, which is fine, but not a slam dunk "wow" hire that this program desperately needs.

This is where I am at as well
 
There is a lot of confusion in this thread, especially for newcomers. Ones who have been here a while can probably ignore this, but much of the confusion and contradicting information can be harmonized by understanding a few basic concepts regarding who has the authority to do what with respect to the university. The easiest way to explain this is to state what appears to have happened thus far:

A large faction of boosters (85%, lead by Ergen) want JG. At some point, this group contacted JG and reached an “agreement in principle” on what it would take for JG to take the job (i.e., if the university agrees to all of these things, JG agrees that he would take the job). This is the “done deal” that MIT refers to. However, this is not an actual agreement with the university, as the boosters lack the legal authority to enter into an agreement on behalf of the university. But there is a “done deal” in the sense that it is known what it will take to get JG. Thus the media report that the “university” has offered JG $10M; bad reporting, as the agreement in question was not likely offered by the university officially, but the “agreement in principle” with the boosters.

So, there is an “agreement in principal” with JG. However, the booster faction knows (based on the events of 2012) that the trick is getting the university to officially agree to the deal (because of resistance from the other 15% of boosters, including Haslam). Thus they put in place a series of incentives to induce the university and the 15% holdout boosters to agree, including withdrawal of booster money (by the 85%); venture capital for the academic side; inciting the fan base into a frenzy; something as yet unknown by PM; and presumably some other things of which we are not yet aware.

It would appear that we are now at the stage of getting the university to officially agree to the “agreement in principle” established between JG and the 85% booster faction. As anticipated, there is resistance. The university’s official representatives (Currie, backed by Haslam) balk at the “agreement in principle.” Certain media sources and/or “insiders” report that other candidates are under consideration, and that the JG deal is dead, or that no talks have ever been had with JG, etc. Those reports are true in the sense that the university (i.e., its official representatives) have had no part in the “agreement in principle” and have initially rejected it. Further, official university representatives have had no direct contract with Gruden. The same is likely true in 2012 and would explain why JG might say he was never contacted then – a true statement if it is recognized that he’s referring to official university representatives.

Essentially, if you consider who has the official capacity to do what, the picture can be largely clarified. It seems that we are currently at the stage where the 85% booster faction is applying their leverage to convince the university itself (i.e., official university representatives) to agree to the “agreement in principle” with JG. Until that either fails or succeeds, BJ will likely remain the head coach.
 
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Feeling your pain.

I’m happy living here.....would be better without all the “roll damn tide” talk.

I'm not too far from you, only I'm south and west. The Emerald Coast is nice, but nothing will ever replace God's country, the best state in the union, Tennessee.
 
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I've got some good news and some bad news.

Good news: my small business consulting business just picked up a new client.

Bad news: I must take my OCD and attention to detail and use it to find inefficiencies in finances and workflow to build someone's business.

I'll check in a little but not much. Someone let me know when there is something to see!

Awesome! As a fellow small business owner I can appreciate that. Congrats!!
 
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My worst experience was with Gator fans. Bama fans were respectful, and Dawg fans only cursed me out. Gator fans wanted to fight.

I worked for diehard Gator fans when we lived in the Fla Keys. They were brutal. I had an enormous power T magnet on my car. They would steal it and send me pics of it in strange places....you know, like a gator’s mouth lol.
 
I grew up in Alabama and married a Bama grad....I completely agree.

I also married a Bama grad. My husband is extremely respectful and even pulls for TN (now) when we're not playing the Tide. A couple of his friends, however, act like he's broken a blood oath by marrying a TN alum. Some of them are truly deranged.
 
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I didn't say no...they may likely happen. I said that's not what I want to see. When did anyone ever care about that?

I'm secure enough in what I believe, I don't need it validated. My list doesn't matter.


Boro, I totally agree with your thoughts but in my own simple way of thinking "who ______ could replace Gruden? What name would instantly recruit, coach to the level of championships, represent the University and our traditions, put us on the road to recovery and become relevant again? I personally do not have that name!
 
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My girlfriend lives in hazel green, I live in Tennessee thankfully. Alabama fans in Alabama are the most annoying humans to roam the earth. They have no clue what they’re talking about half the time and most know nothing about their own team. I know more about Alabama’s team than half of their fans do. Most annoying fan base ever.

Haha. That's kind of ironic. I'm from Huntland and now live in Merdianville. There is a wide gap in intelligence for Alabama fans. I've gotten used to it. The hardest thing was getting the kids to be Vol fans, when the wife's family is bama fans. I threw away several "gifts', at family get togethers.

Took the kids out for Halloween, my daughter runs up to a house and screams. I ask her what's wrong, "Dad...they like Alabama". :)
 
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Anyone catch this? Apparently Butch made VFL Davis life living hell.
Jimmy’s blog: VFL Davis has harsh words for Jones in resignation email | WNML-AF

Dammit. We need Gruden like yesterday. Butch is tearing down this program “brick by brick”.

If Butch being gone is a certainty, surely Davis would be aware of that and would wait things out. Suggests Butch being gone isn't so much a done deal and potential of him being out after Bama or UK not really on the table.
 
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I'm not too far from you, only I'm south and west. The Emerald Coast is nice, but nothing will ever replace God's country, the best state in the union, Tennessee.

It’s beautiful here. I actually prefer it over living in the Keys. But you’re right about Tennessee.....I feel blessed to have been born and raised in our great state of Tennessee. Nothing like it!
 
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