Official Jon Gruden Thread XXIII

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Lots of "insiders" have different details but they all agree Butch is gone. Except you that I've seen.

Butch's fate, according to my source, depends on record and what happens in games. Basically a fluid situation. We go to Kentucky tomorrow and lose 45-0...Butch most likely is gone. He goes 6-6...he's gone. He barely loses to KY and goes 7-5 or better and gets a mid tier bowl...Currie CONSIDERS keeping him. That's what I was told...upon research I see that's also what Hyams is reporting. So...we shall see.
 
Its amazing how much work you can get done, find a family you forgot you had, dog wags his tail again...no worrying about things beyond your control...

Just relax...

It will be what it will be.
 
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Dude said Currie has not contacted any coaches. The boosters and Peyton are doing that right?

That is what I have always heard. It is all backchannel work at this point. No way your AD is in direct contact with prospective coaches with a sitting coach still on the payroll. That would be a bad, bad look and just bad business.
 
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Butch's fate, according to my source, depends on record and what happens in games. Basically a fluid situation. We go to Kentucky tomorrow and lose 45-0...Butch most likely is gone. He goes 6-6...he's gone. He barely loses to KY and goes 7-5 or better and gets a mid tier bowl...Currie CONSIDERS keeping him. That's what I was told...upon research I see that's also what Hyams is reporting. So...we shall see.

So you're Hyams? But in all seriousness Hyams is reporting what he's told to report to keep his access to the program. His word is no more believable than mine.
 
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The question we should be asking is why this narrative is being told as the official story from UTAD. But I think it’s becoming apparent why.
Yeah they are gonna let him resign and try to make it so he can get a job when he leaves. Just my guess
Damn, I been on here way too long today, names are running together and folks are talking to themselves:blink:
 
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Have you all not noticed how MIT always talks about the odds? The guy is a complete hack. Vegas knows ****! He’s stealing money guys, don’t fall for it. Please, don’t be stupid.

I appreciate you trying to take care of my dumb monkey butt. I'm sooo glad you came on here. I was about to sell everything I own and bet it! :crazy:
 
So that 250+ odds...
Is that legit Vegas or some random, minuscule betting site that has gotten a ton of Gruden action from VN believers?
Not cynical...just wanting to go ahead and move the meter to ?
Yeah it's B. Someone on here bet like a grand in $50 increments every 60 seconds, and every time he placed a new $50 bet, the odds were better.
 
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Let me say this first of all. With the exception of a few on here who are just trolling most people are getting info from 3rd parties. I certainly doubt anyone here is looking Currie in the eye and getting the information directly from him. Obviously, we all trust our sources and since many are saying different things then someone is obviously wrong. If that person is me (and I hope it is) then I will admit my source was wrong. I'm not on here to mislead or bait anyone. I'd love for Gruden to be coach and I certainly want Butch gone. So this isn't a competition for me. Guess we will see...

IF you are wrong? With all due respect, your earlier proclamation was made with an unwaivering tone of finality to it. In essence, an absolute. So how does the possibility to be wrong enter the equation now?
 
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That is what I have always heard. It is all backchannel work at this point. No way your AD is in direct contact with prospective coaches with a sitting coach still on the payroll. That would be a bad, bad look and just bad business.

Correct
 
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