Official Jon Gruden Thread XXII

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jakez4ut said:
i think the best thing to come from this thread is that we have two new groups...grudenites and negagrudes.

the dynamic is shifting at Volnation. what are the old pumpers and negas to do now??? and have the negas turned in to grudenites, and the pumpers are negagrudes?

whoa.....this is heavy.
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This thread is where pumpers and negas come together, accepting the inevitable end of the Jones era, with renewed hope for the future... VolNation unites here!
 
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bcartervol98 said:
I have no idea if he is or not. He sort of is ESPN football, sort of a current day Chris Berman. I would think they would have to be mighty bad off to cut him.

With that said I barely watch NFL Football so I am not sure how correct I am. When I think ESPN and NFL I think Gruden.
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They are mighty bad off.
 
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StillaWaiting said:
So what’s the latest non factual information we got on Gruden from a buddy of a buddy I really trust ?
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I don't have any true "insider" info sources, but I did hear something yesterday that was interesting. A person I work with at one of my clients said

You should GTFO.
 
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Alright fellas, I'm going to do my best to add some substantive conjecture instead of being a negative nancy. As I see it, the biggest hope for our Grumors right now lies in how Grumaggedon 1.0 actually went down. Here are the two theories behind the 2012 meltdown.

Theory 1: Gruden was on board until the 11th hour, when Cheek and Hart screwed things up.

  • Could just be more hogwash to try and salvage the last bit of credibility that the "insiders" to the situation had. At worst, it's just another lie on top of the pile of other lies.
  • However, it could also be the real story--and I don't think anything about it is necessarily unbelievable. Cheek has long been rumored to be a thorn in the side of the athletics department, and I don't think anyone was necessarily impressed with Hart's tenure as AD. Remember, Butch was pretty far down on our list of coaches. It kind of makes sense, seeing that Hart failed to attract multiple other top name coaches to UT, that he screwed up Gruden's hiring somehow as well.
  • If theory 1 is correct, I'd say our chances of landing Gruden are a VERY real possibility. It makes more sense at this point for Gruden to make a return than it did then. The Athletic Department is in better financial shape. We have a new AD driving things. Boosters are probably more bankrolled than before. Peyton is now more fully in the mix. I mean it makes sense that if we barely failed before, we would close the deal now.

Theory 2: Gruden was never a real possibility. A single phone call was made by the AD, and Gruden turned us down.

  • I think this is the "official" story as it came from a few beat writers.
  • If this is really how things went down, then all of the things we heard from "inside sources" were just pure bs. Might have been an intentional misrepresentation of facts, or it might have been honest mistakes. Gossip can get out of control. Either way, it basically invalidates any use of "inside sources."
  • If theory 2 is correct, then I'd say our chances at landing Grooden are much much slimmer. It means that we aren't really high on the man's list. Maybe he really does want to be an NFL coach again instead of a college coach. Or that he's with ESPN for the long haul. Whatever the case, if he shut us down with a single phone call before, I'm not sure we're going to attract him now.

Anyways, that's my way of simplifying the current Grudescape.
 
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Did any news come out after the faux Gmail and twitter exchanges last night. Did they confirm that they were talking to the same people????

I think it was AV and MIT.
 
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Maybe it is just a result of all of the beaver chatter on this thread that has me paying attention, but man these announcers are "beavers" this "beavers" that on this game... Maybe they know something. SOON!
 
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Booker512 said:
So wait.

Jon Gruden IS moving to Knoxville or no? I have been back reading for 20 min and can not find where .this was or was not confirmed or at least highly probable. Just a Jayson Swain tweet...and as much as I like Swain...I mean....it’s Swain lolol.
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Gruden and family are definitely moving to Knoxville and have settled on a home. One of my good friends home is one they looked at when here and his realtor called him and told him they decided to go in a different direction.

The irony is the home they decided on is a few doors down from Butch apparently. I am still very very skeptical he will be our coach or coach at the college level ever but he is moving here in the near future.
 
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Shackleford said:
Alright fellas, I'm going to do my best to add some substantive conjecture instead of being a negative nancy. As I see it, the biggest hope for our Grumors right now lies in how Grumaggedon 1.0 actually went down. Here are the two theories behind the 2012 meltdown.

Theory 1: Gruden was on board until the 11th hour, when Cheek and Hart screwed things up.

  • Could just be more hogwash to try and salvage the last bit of credibility that the "insiders" to the situation had. At worst, it's just another lie on top of the pile of other lies.
  • However, it could also be the real story--and I don't think anything about it is necessarily unbelievable. Cheek has long been rumored to be a thorn in the side of the athletics department, and I don't think anyone was necessarily impressed with Hart's tenure as AD. Remember, Butch was pretty far down on our list of coaches. It kind of makes sense, seeing that Hart failed to attract multiple other top name coaches to UT, that he screwed up Gruden's hiring somehow as well.
  • If theory 1 is correct, I'd say our chances of landing Gruden are a VERY real possibility. It makes more sense at this point for Gruden to make a return than it did then. The Athletic Department is in better financial shape. We have a new AD driving things. Boosters are probably more bankrolled than before. Peyton is now more fully in the mix. I mean it makes sense that if we barely failed before, we would close the deal now.

Theory 2: Gruden was never a real possibility. A single phone call was made by the AD, and Gruden turned us down.

  • I think this is the "official" story as it came from a few beat writers.
  • If this is really how things went down, then all of the things we heard from "inside sources" were just pure bs. Might have been an intentional misrepresentation of facts, or it might have been honest mistakes. Gossip can get out of control. Either way, it basically invalidates any use of "inside sources."
  • If theory 2 is correct, then I'd say our chances at landing Grooden are much much slimmer. It means that we aren't really high on the man's list. Maybe he really does want to be an NFL coach again instead of a college coach. Or that he's with ESPN for the long haul. Whatever the case, if he shut us down with a single phone call before, I'm not sure we're going to attract him now.

Anyways, that's my way of simplifying the current Grudescape.
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Good post. The fact that Gruden has openly stated that the Tennessee job "wasn't the right timing" in 2012 makes my personal pendulum swing in favor of scenario 1. Either are entirely possibly though. SOON:rock:
 
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