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Anyone get the feeling we beat Kentucky and butch survives another week . This is downright stupid to keep him any longer past today
 
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While I have nothing on which to base this rationale, other than some logic and reasoning, I would like to throw out a scenario.

Maybe BJ is given the rest of the season. He is officially terminated (or resigns) the week of November 27. The season is over (i.e., no bowl game). No need for an interim. Search is "officially" started. This gives the AD a few weeks to confirm and announce the new HC before the December 20 early signing period. Most importantly, it is not a rushed process, everything gets worked out, the ink dries, etc.

Again, just my thoughts, not based on anything other than my scrambled brain.
 
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I think there are definite financial advantages to wait to later in the season to make the change. If their are clauses that are going to save UT money they will take advantage of them. Also, other coaches who might be considered will not want the media attention being a hindrance. Even The Great Gruden would not want to deal with all of the media questions to distract from his MNF role.

This is a lost season and UT will let it play out to show their fairness in dealing with Butch. When he loses bowl eligibility they can say they have to do something to salvage the program. Hiring the right coach will save the recruiting class.

The critical factor in a new coach to me is ability to recruit, developing players, and the ability to develop an aggressive offensive line who can maul people. I am tired of 4 and 5 star talent being wasted because we are playing with a sissy offense. These players are being cheated.
 
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KeyVol14 said:
Anyone get the feeling we beat Kentucky and butch survives another week . This is downright stupid to keep him any longer past today
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I expect it to happen. Kentucky will probably either play their worst game of the year or crap the bed late like they did against Florida.
 
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tnhunter 10 said:
I doubt numbers are thrown out yet. I've been lurking and reconing all of these posts. I think I've figured out who to believe and not to believe.
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Illated94 hasn't posted anything of good info other than just a retweet. Stating that if butch gets 6 wins... He is safe.

Man..

I really hope that's not true.

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onevol74 said:
I think there are definite financial advantages to wait to later in the season to make the change. If their are clauses that are going to save UT money they will take advantage of them. Also, other coaches who might be considered will not want the media attention being a hindrance. Even The Great Gruden would not want to deal with all of the media questions to distract from his MNF role.

This is a lost season and UT will let it play out to show their fairness in dealing with Butch. When he loses bowl eligibility they can say they have to do something to salvage the program. Hiring the right coach will save the recruiting class.

The critical factor in a new coach to me is ability to recruit, developing players, and the ability to develop an aggressive offensive line who can maul people. I am tired of 4 and 5 star talent being wasted because we are playing with a sissy offense. These players are being cheated.
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I just think early signing period plays a huge role
 
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KPT_VFL said:
Never heard that but you never provide sources so idk if I believe.
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Thats why it’s called a rumor. I’m sure you can find stuff on it if you do some google research. My job isn’t to provide you with a link to everything. Don’t be lazy. Do your own research.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Larry Smith. Retired. Be 70 in December. Worked in IT for 48 years with 3 different companies in Nashville. Now golf 3-4 times per week and live in Mount Juliet.

Been a member of the Tennessee Fund since its inception in 1986. A donor.

Have 14 season tickets in Section B. All about the 35 yard line. Have had season tickets since 1976.

Know many people in the athletic department. Don't talk with as much anymore as I did even 5 years ago. Over the 50 years (starting going in 1965) I have been going to UT games I have made hundreds of friends that are fans of Tennessee and much closer to many in the athletic department than even I am. That is the reason I don't have to stay plugged into the AD as much anymore. I rarely have to call people for information. Lot of people contact me and keep me up to date.

I have many friends in the media. Hubbs, Lewis, Brice, Rucker, Low, Callahan to name a few. Have known most several years and some a decade or more.

Was close with Coach Fulmer and assistants on his staff for several years. Still communicate with coach. Know many players and their families going back to the early 90s. Stay in contact with many.

I never post anything from a single source. Has to be more than one and those sources independent of each other. I have posted things in the last 20 years that UT has called me about. Multiple times. Stuff they didn't like.

That is my background.

this link is to my YouTube channel. Many videos I have (over 900 individual games) were given to me from UT's library. Enjoy them anytime.

Larry Smith
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Larry thank you so much for being cool and keeping us in the loop all these years. Please continue to post my friend.
 
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KeyVol14 said:
Anyone get the feeling we beat Kentucky and butch survives another week . This is downright stupid to keep him any longer past today
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No. Don't have that feeling at all. We haven't scored an offensive touchdown in 3+ games now. Don't see us winning another game, outside of possibly Southern Miss.
 
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Vols_Life said:
While I have nothing on which to base this rationale, other than some logic and reasoning, I would like to throw out a scenario.

Maybe BJ is given the rest of the season. He is officially terminated (or resigns) the week of November 27. The season is over (i.e., no bowl game). No need for an interim. Search is "officially" started. This gives the AD a few weeks to confirm and announce the new HC before the December 20 early signing period. Most importantly, it is not a rushed process, everything gets worked out, the ink dries, etc.

Again, just my thoughts, not based on anything other than my scrambled brain.
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But the season isn’t over; and as bad as we have been and as gloom and doom we are, the schedule gets much easier. We can definitely still make a bowl. And if somehow we do get hotter and finish strong, it will look terrible us firing him then.

Right now is when it should happen.
 
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TNJOKER said:
Illated94 hasn't posted anything of good info other than just a retweet. Stating that if butch gets 6 wins... He is safe.

Man..

I really hope that's not true.
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I am starting to believe that is the case. If so, we hired the wrong AD.
 
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TNJOKER said:
That's done and over with. He was coaching in the NFL by the time that mess come along.
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Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal.

The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires a coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to his new place of work.

Source: Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
 
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BP4Prez said:
No. Don't have that feeling at all. We haven't scored an offensive touchdown in 3+ games now. Don't see us winning another game, outside of possibly Southern Miss.
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We will beat Mizzou. Vandy is falling apart. UK is still UK.

Honestly LSU is the only solid L I see.
 
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