Official Jon Gruden Thread XVII

[KB5252]

There is a.guy claiming to have inside info over in the Venables thread.

Claims Currie is meeting with a search firm next week to get recommendations for our new coach.

He claims to have seen a list of potential candidates, Brohm, Mullen, and a couple other, no to Gruden.

So what I'm wondering is do we need to pay this guy a visit for spreading this blasphemy? We can't let this go on? Can we?

Hail Gruden!!

Do not be tempted by those that walk in darkness, instead rejoice in Gruden and spread the good news that all might be Grudenified.

 

[volfan1631]

There is a.guy claiming to have inside info over in the Venables thread.

Claims Currie is meeting with a search firm next week to get recommendations for our new coach.

He claims to have seen a list of potential candidates, Brohm, Mullen, and a couple other, no to Gruden.

So what I'm wondering is do we need to pay this guy a visit for spreading this blasphemy? We can't let this go on? Can we?

Hail Gruden!!

Stay away from negaGrudes

 

[buckfama]

Do not be tempted by those that walk in darkness, instead rejoice in Gruden and spread the good news that all might be Grudenified.

I'm trying, but I still want to kick him in his batteries ...

 

[Doc_Vol]

Who are the others?

 

[JimVol]

Just an FYI. Gruden's overall record is 95-81 or .54%. Butch Jones' overall record is 133-83 overall or .62%.

Heck, even this year so far his winning % is better than Gruden's. So, keep on with the Grumors if you want a .54% winning % coach to replace your .600 winning percentage coach. LOL

Just Saying!

JimVol

 

[VOL608]

There is a.guy claiming to have inside info over in the Venables thread.

Claims Currie is meeting with a search firm next week to get recommendations for our new coach.

He claims to have seen a list of potential candidates, Brohm, Mullen, and a couple other, no to Gruden.

So what I'm wondering is do we need to pay this guy a visit for spreading this blasphemy? We can't let this go on? Can we?

Hail Gruden!!

Long time lurker here, but hopefully Currie doesn’t use a search firm. In my opinion, search firms exist so you can deflect blame if a coaching hire goes wrong. Athletic Directors should be smart enough and plugged in enough to the point where they know who is a good coach and who isn’t. It’s part of the AD’s job description to make hires. Also, why would you hire a search firm when they have no idea what the school is about? To be quite honest, I wish I was smart enough to start a search firm. It’s basically stealing money from schools who don’t want to handle their own business.

 

[dbarker]

Just an FYI. Gruden's overall record is 95-81 or .54%. Butch Jones' overall record is 133-83 overall or .62%.

Heck, even this year so far his winning % is better than Gruden's. So, keep on with the Grumors if you want a .54% winning % coach to replace your .600 winning percentage coach. LOL

Just Saying!

JimVol

Ugh we already went through this. Gruden had his hands tied due to Salary Cap and GM issues at Tampa...

 

[MrVol]

Word is Gruden had already agreed in principal but the deal was snagged on money for assistants before Butch was hired.

If you believe that and the sources saying money and support has been given to Currie to get his man it certainly sounds as if there impediments have been removed. We will see.



Soon!

This is so true. Gruden wanted more money for assistants and he also wanted complete control of football. Those 2 issues kept us from landing Gruden.

 

[buckfama]

I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive starters on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chad Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly unlikely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.

Here is the post.. I almost puked when I read it..

 

[MemphisVol77]

Normally I read completely through a thread so as not to be that guy.

And I'm pretty sure there is no way this hasn't been posted before.

But...
Gruden's Wikipedia Page says he's our coach!!!!!! So I'll be that guy.


Now I'm trying not to get too excited. I've heard wiki isn't always the most accurate source sometimes before....
But what if Gruden made the wiki adjustment💣?

 

[zeppelin128]

An offering fitting of the One True Gruden.

 

[zeppelin128]

Just an FYI. Gruden's overall record is 95-81 or .54%. Butch Jones' overall record is 133-83 overall or .62%.

Heck, even this year so far his winning % is better than Gruden's. So, keep on with the Grumors if you want a .54% winning % coach to replace your .600 winning percentage coach. LOL

Just Saying!

JimVol

Do not blaspheme in this sacred space!

 

[JimVol]

Ugh we already went through this. Gruden had his hands tied due to Salary Cap and GM issues at Tampa...

Okay, run what you brung man!

We can say the same for Butch. He had his hands tied by AD's and poor coordinators. Takes 7 years afterall. LOL

I would love to jump on the Gruden train too, but I just can't yet. I did last time (2012) and got sucked into all of the speculation and plane tracking junk.

Thanks!

JimVol

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Okay, run what you brung man!

We can say the same for Butch. He had his hands tied by AD's and poor coordinators. Takes 7 years afterall. LOL

I would love to jump on the Gruden train too, but I just can't yet. I did last time (2012) and got sucked into all of the speculation and plane tracking junk.

Thanks!

JimVol

We offer hope and strong drink but it's up to you.

 

[Boston Vol]

Just an FYI. Gruden's overall record is 95-81 or .54%. Butch Jones' overall record is 133-83 overall or .62%.

Heck, even this year so far his winning % is better than Gruden's. So, keep on with the Grumors if you want a .54% winning % coach to replace your .600 winning percentage coach. LOL

Just Saying!


JimVol

Yes because comparing coaching records from the nfl and college makes total sense. I mean hell Bill Walsh’s career winning percentage in the nfl was .609 I guess that means he and butch are basically equals right?

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Why wouldn't Gruden want to coach here?

 

[dbarker]

Okay, run what you brung man!

We can say the same for Butch. He had his hands tied by AD's and poor coordinators. Takes 7 years afterall. LOL

I would love to jump on the Gruden train too, but I just can't yet. I did last time (2012) and got sucked into all of the speculation and plane tracking junk.

Thanks!

JimVol

Jim Vol, this was a VERY WELL written post by someone previously in this thread. I can't remember where I found it cause I actually saved it to my phone. I'd give credit if I could.

"To those who seriously ask if Gruden is a good coach or try and imply he wasn't good in the NFL....

The Raiders were a disaster area on the Dooley level before he arrived. The Raiders had just finished 4-12, in last place in the AFC West. Al Davis was a known psycho and terrible owner. Within 3 years the Raiders went from last place to 1st place in the AFC West. The Raiders hadn't made the play-offs since the 1993 season. In year 3 under Gruden they lost in the AFC Championship game to the SB champion Ravens. Rich Gannon had been a flat, average or below average QB everywhere he went. His production essentially doubled in Gruden's system. He went on to 4 Pro-Bowls and the NFL MVP award in his mid 30s once he got with Gruden. Al Davis traded Gruden to Tampa Bay because his contract was coming due and Davis didn't want to spend the money to keep him.

Tony Dungy had built a good defensive team in Tampa Bay but was trending down. He hadn't built some juggernaut like some here seem to think. He went 11-5, 10-6 and then 9-7 in his final season in Tampa. He coached them in 4 playoff games but Tampa only scored a total of 32 points in the 4 games. His offense was bad, especially in the playoffs. During this time Tampa was spending money like crazy trying to win the Super Bowl. Their salary cap situation was a disaster and they were going to have to cut bait by the 2002 season. So they went all in on Gruden with the trade to Oakland. It worked. Tampa improved from 9-7 to 12-4 in Gruden's first season. Tampa scored 108 points in their 3 playoff wins. They tied the 1992 Dallas Cowboys for largest margins of victory in the free agency era in the playoffs.

Then the cap issues hit. The owner acknowledged this and knew times would be getting rocky. Gruden got the Bucs back to 11-5 after two down years. There were still cap issues even then.*

At the end of his 11 seasons, he'd finished in 1st place in his division 5 times. His .540 winning percentage is actually 26th all time in the Super Bowl era of coaches who were in the league more than 10 seasons. Higher than guys like John Fox, Tom Coughlin, Dan Reeves, Lovie Smith, Jack Del Rio etc who have at minimum coached in the Super Bowl and in the case of Fox and Coughlin won 3 between them.*

Would he be a good college coach? Highly likely because he was a very much above average coach in a much tougher setting."

 

[eternal]

Jim Vol, this was a VERY WELL written post by someone previously in this thread. I can't remember where I found it cause I actually saved it to my phone. I'd give credit if I could.

"To those who seriously ask if Gruden is a good coach or try and imply he wasn't good in the NFL....

The Raiders were a disaster area on the Dooley level before he arrived. The Raiders had just finished 4-12, in last place in the AFC West. Al Davis was a known psycho and terrible owner. Within 3 years the Raiders went from last place to 1st place in the AFC West. The Raiders hadn't made the play-offs since the 1993 season. In year 3 under Gruden they lost in the AFC Championship game to the SB champion Ravens. Rich Gannon had been a flat, average or below average QB everywhere he went. His production essentially doubled in Gruden's system. He went on to 4 Pro-Bowls and the NFL MVP award in his mid 30s once he got with Gruden. Al Davis traded Gruden to Tampa Bay because his contract was coming due and Davis didn't want to spend the money to keep him.

Tony Dungy had built a good defensive team in Tampa Bay but was trending down. He hadn't built some juggernaut like some here seem to think. He went 11-5, 10-6 and then 9-7 in his final season in Tampa. He coached them in 4 playoff games but Tampa only scored a total of 32 points in the 4 games. His offense was bad, especially in the playoffs. During this time Tampa was spending money like crazy trying to win the Super Bowl. Their salary cap situation was a disaster and they were going to have to cut bait by the 2002 season. So they went all in on Gruden with the trade to Oakland. It worked. Tampa improved from 9-7 to 12-4 in Gruden's first season. Tampa scored 108 points in their 3 playoff wins. They tied the 1992 Dallas Cowboys for largest margins of victory in the free agency era in the playoffs.

Then the cap issues hit. The owner acknowledged this and knew times would be getting rocky. Gruden got the Bucs back to 11-5 after two down years. There were still cap issues even then.*

At the end of his 11 seasons, he'd finished in 1st place in his division 5 times. His .540 winning percentage is actually 26th all time in the Super Bowl era of coaches who were in the league more than 10 seasons. Higher than guys like John Fox, Tom Coughlin, Dan Reeves, Lovie Smith, Jack Del Rio etc who have at minimum coached in the Super Bowl and in the case of Fox and Coughlin won 3 between them.*

Would he be a good college coach? Highly likely because he was a very much above average coach in a much tougher setting."

dilly dilly
and won it with this guy
Brad Johnson Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

 

[Poppa T]

Just got in from wedding party. Whew!
Bump to keep Grude thread on top.

 

[dbarker]

dilly dilly
and won it with this guy
Brad Johnson Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Eternal I LOVE the profile pic. Going to see them backstage in Orlando on Saturday! So stoked!

 

[eternal]

Eternal I LOVE the profile pic. Going to see them backstage in Orlando on Saturday! So stoked!

:rock:
Awesome they are down to earth guys. Hope you have a blast
seen and met dave a few times got his autograph but they never would let me bring a camera. They use to come to ktown quite a few times. Seems after the big 4 concerts they are not doing small clubs anymore. What was weird was seeing small kids like 6+ years old and old couples like 60+

 

[dbarker]

:rock:
Awesome they are down to earth guys. Hope you have a blast
seen and met dave a few times got his autograph but they never would let me bring a camera. They use to come to ktown quite a few times. Seems after the big 4 concerts they are not doing small clubs anymore. What was weird was seeing small kids like 6+ years old and old couples like 60+

First time ever seeing them. Listened to them since I was a teen, so when I meet them and take a group photo I'm gonna try not to be nervous. Lol

Not shocked about 60s but 6 year olds is odd haha.
I'm gonna see if Mustaine will sign my 4 Pack of Megadeth Beer lol

 

[photovol]

It's been suggested to me that there are 3 names on the target list. I've been unable to get a read on who those names are. All speculation on my part has been met with "it's a good list".


I don't like not knowing things.

Perhaps, you need to get it together and start Knowing things

 

[wildorange]

Grudnight!

 

[NashVol11]

Just an FYI. Gruden's overall record is 95-81 or .54%. Butch Jones' overall record is 133-83 overall or .62%.

Heck, even this year so far his winning % is better than Gruden's. So, keep on with the Grumors if you want a .54% winning % coach to replace your .600 winning percentage coach. LOL

Just Saying!

JimVol

Having a winning record in the NFL is several times harder than doing it in college. What's Saban's NFL winning percentage?