Official Jon Gruden Thread XLVI

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apevol said:
Whos the UGA defensive coordinator who used to headbutt players til his face was bleeding,
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Joey Freshwater's S&D coach at FAU Wilson Love when he was Bamer used to headbutt players when they had their helmets on. Barks like a dog. They call him the Tasmanian devil. He is a wildman. Look it up on YouTube.
 
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XVol64 said:
Somebody help me.....these are quotes from some bama folks I know and even call friend, but there is no arguing with them, they think they are always right.

"In 92 while Majors was in the hospital, drying out (story at the time was heart attack), Fulmer campaigned for him to be fired so he could take over permanently."

"Fulmer is a snake. Always has been. Even Bill Curry didnt like him and Curry liked everyone. Stallings didnt like him either"

"Um Fulmer and the Haslams are tight. They helped put him in."

"2 Haslams on the BOT. They wanted Fulmer."

Help, I need some good comebacks on this stuff.....I hate Bama and I almost Hate their stinking fans, even my friends who are fans!
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Majors always had strained relationships with his assistants. He hired good coaches, but he was hard on them. That was in part due to how much he knew about virtually every position on the field. Regardless, he was hard to work for.

Majors was, as other have alluded, his own worst enemy especially when inebriated. Majors had the bad habit of taking his filter out before he began speaking.

When the heart problems hit him, Fulmer stepped in with no ambition or intention of anything other than "filling in."

The players and the other assistants responded very favorably to Fulmer and the freedom he gave them. The result were 4 straight victories including a dramatic victory in Athens and a thumping of Florida in a storm where, by the end of the game, we were even cheering the lightning strikes.

Suddenly what was supposed to be an 8-10 week break for coach Majors ended about 2.5 weeks early when Fulmer became the toast of college football and Majors got nervous.

Over the next three games the team tightened up, the assistants grumbled and UT lost games to a bad Arkansas team, the eventual National Champ Alabama team and a really bad USCe team.

By this time the Vol Nation was in an uproar. The more frustrations were expressed, the more coach Majors doubled down. He insulted fans, boosters and even coach Dickey.

Meanwhile there were several schools with potential or actual openings that were looking hard at coach Fulmer. The most realistic threats were Auburn and Clemson if I remember correctly.

With the success, the attention and the adulation of both the team and the boosters who were tired of Majors, coach Fulmer realized he had the leverage. He had not planned to unseat coach Majors, but he didn't want to leave UT either. It's at the point I believe he began suggesting to Charlie Anderson and other boosters that maybe he didn't want to have to go to Clemson or Auburn and he wished there was a way he could stay at UT.

When Majors went on a final indignant tirade, the Andersons and a few other boosters allowed coach Dickey to pull the plug.

Coach Fulmer is not JR Ewing. Neither is he lily white. Once the obvious opportunity presented itself, he stepped in and did what was necessary to get what he wanted. However had coach Majors responded differently, the opportunity would have never materialized. Coach Majors created the opportunity and coach Fulmer took advantage of it.

So all the folks taking one side or the other are misguided or misinformed. I'd venture it was almost 50/50 as far as responsibility.
 
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BIGORANGEFISH said:
Joey Freshwater's S&D coach at FAU Wilson Love when he was Bamer used to headbutt players when they had their helmets on. Barks like a dog. They call him the Tasmanian devil. He is a wildman. Look it up on YouTube.
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A pale imitation. Dude would bleed like he was stabbed.
 
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Man? I'm fiddin to have to dig out my old phones and get some numbers! This red bull and keistering cocao ain't workin!
 
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Yall need to cut out all this sexy times talk.. for some.of us it's been awhile..

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apevol said:
Thread isnt even about Gruden. We get branded the loons, somehow. The FF is too ****ing crazy for me to even post in for the last 5 years.
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Been a roller coaster week lots has happened. It's a Friday night, blowin off steam. Freak will give a little latitude tonight.
 
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vol9799 said:
Majors always had strained relationships with his assistants. He hired good coaches, but he was hard on them. That was in part due to how much he knew about virtually every position on the field. Regardless, he was hard to work for.

Majors was, as other have alluded, his own worst enemy especially when inebriated. Majors had the bad habit of taking his filter out before he began speaking.

When the heart problems hit him, Fulmer stepped in with no ambition or intention of anything other than "filling in."

The players and the other assistants responded very favorably to Fulmer and the freedom he gave them. The result were 4 straight victories including a dramatic victory in Athens and a thumping of Florida in a storm where, by the end of the game, we were even cheering the lightning strikes.

Suddenly what was supposed to be an 8-10 week break for coach Majors ended about 2.5 weeks early when Fulmer became the toast of college football and Majors got nervous.

Over the next three games the team tightened up, the assistants grumbled and UT lost games to a bad Arkansas team, the eventual National Champ Alabama team and a really bad USCe team.

By this time the Vol Nation was in an uproar. The more frustrations were expressed, the more coach Majors doubled down. He insulted fans, boosters and even coach Dickey.

Meanwhile there were several schools with potential or actual openings that were looking hard at coach Fulmer. The most realistic threats were Auburn and Clemson if I remember correctly.

With the success, the attention and the adulation of both the team and the boosters who were tired of Majors, coach Fulmer realized he had the leverage. He had not planned to unseat coach Majors, but he didn't want to leave UT either. It's at the point I believe he began suggesting to Charlie Anderson and other boosters that maybe he didn't want to have to go to Clemson or Auburn and he wished there was a way he could stay at UT.

When Majors went on a final indignant tirade, the Andersons and a few other boosters allowed coach Dickey to pull the plug.

Coach Fulmer is not JR Ewing. Neither is he lily white. Once the obvious opportunity presented itself, he stepped in and did what was necessary to get what he wanted. However had coach Majors responded differently, the opportunity would have never materialized. Coach Majors created the opportunity and coach Fulmer took advantage of it.

So all the folks taking one side or the other are misguided or misinformed. I'd venture it was almost 50/50 as far as responsibility.
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You just said in 483827495938r74 characters, what I said earlier in 20. But you managed to makmy summary look pedestrian.
 
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vol9799 said:
Majors always had strained relationships with his assistants. He hired good coaches, but he was hard on them. That was in part due to how much he knew about virtually every position on the field. Regardless, he was hard to work for.

Majors was, as other have alluded, his own worst enemy especially when inebriated. Majors had the bad habit of taking his filter out before he began speaking.
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Took most of it out in the quote, but this is absolutely the truth and what happened!
 
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volundeer said:
I’m going to tell you all a story about Phil Fulmer. Many of you know that I lost my teenage son a few months ago. He was born in ‘98 and was a surviving twin. That fall my husband and I were grieving the loss of one son and our other son was in the NICU hanging onto life by a tenuous thread. We had been through so many crises as any parent of a child in the NICU can tell you is just the way it is. We were grieving, scared and exhausted. We happened to catch the end of our football game vs Arkansas I believe - the one where their quarterback inexplicably fumbled and we came back to win? My husband had just said, “Well, that’s the ballgame.” I replied, “You never know what can happen!” He said, “All he has to do is take a knee.” Then the fumble happened and I KNEW that ANYTHING truly can happen and my son DID have a chance to make it! All things are possible! I knew from my faith, of course, that God could heal our son but for some reason seeing the end of that game gave me more hope.

I wrote a letter to Coach Fulmer after that thanking the team for not giving up and for showing that anything is possible. I received a very nice letter back from him telling me he read the letter to the team. He is a kind man with great character and compassion. I still have that letter.

It’s easy to say “It’s just football,” but as the poster whose son has depression commented and as our situation proves - sometimes it means MUCH more than just a game.

Just wanted to share that with my Volnation family.
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This needed to be moved forward in the board so everyone has a chance to read it. It tells how important Vol Football is to so many and it tells the type of person our new AD is. I've always love PF. I met him once. He is a very gracious and caring person. We are more than fortunate that he is OURS.

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vol9799 said:
Majors always had strained relationships with his assistants. He hired good coaches, but he was hard on them. That was in part due to how much he knew about virtually every position on the field. Regardless, he was hard to work for.

Majors was, as other have alluded, his own worst enemy especially when inebriated. Majors had the bad habit of taking his filter out before he began speaking.

When the heart problems hit him, Fulmer stepped in with no ambition or intention of anything other than "filling in."

The players and the other assistants responded very favorably to Fulmer and the freedom he gave them. The result were 4 straight victories including a dramatic victory in Athens and a thumping of Florida in a storm where, by the end of the game, we were even cheering the lightning strikes.

Suddenly what was supposed to be an 8-10 week break for coach Majors ended about 2.5 weeks early when Fulmer became the toast of college football and Majors got nervous.

Over the next three games the team tightened up, the assistants grumbled and UT lost games to a bad Arkansas team, the eventual National Champ Alabama team and a really bad USCe team.

By this time the Vol Nation was in an uproar. The more frustrations were expressed, the more coach Majors doubled down. He insulted fans, boosters and even coach Dickey.

Meanwhile there were several schools with potential or actual openings that were looking hard at coach Fulmer. The most realistic threats were Auburn and Clemson if I remember correctly.

With the success, the attention and the adulation of both the team and the boosters who were tired of Majors, coach Fulmer realized he had the leverage. He had not planned to unseat coach Majors, but he didn't want to leave UT either. It's at the point I believe he began suggesting to Charlie Anderson and other boosters that maybe he didn't want to have to go to Clemson or Auburn and he wished there was a way he could stay at UT.

When Majors went on a final indignant tirade, the Andersons and a few other boosters allowed coach Dickey to pull the plug.

Coach Fulmer is not JR Ewing. Neither is he lily white. Once the obvious opportunity presented itself, he stepped in and did what was necessary to get what he wanted. However had coach Majors responded differently, the opportunity would have never materialized. Coach Majors created the opportunity and coach Fulmer took advantage of it.

So all the folks taking one side or the other are misguided or misinformed. I'd venture it was almost 50/50 as far as responsibility.
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Really appreciate this synopsis. Hope it is accurate. Thank you.

Much better than ape's pedestrian version, btw.
 
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