Official Jon Gruden Thread XIX

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We may or may not get Gruden, but by gum, before this thread is finished, I swear to you all that preacherwebb will be able to successfully embed a gif!

It would be great for his first successful attempt to be in response to Gruden being announced as HC officially. What a way to end the thread.
 
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I replied to my own comment when I said that it feels like no one listens to me. Case in point...


Yes, dear. That's nice.

No, those pants look nice on you.

Yes, I took out the garbage.

Of course you are right. You always are.

(miss anything?)
 
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It's not a bad place to fly in and out of

super small, go down some stairs in and out, 100 yr old person doing security works great, minus the MUST have ticket, no E-tix there, or last time i was there in Sept last year........

before the mergers with Us Airways and united or whoever, it was perfect, always used them to get to Charlotte as Charlotte is a hub for then Star Alliance, now I tend to stick with Jet Blue unless emergency and i need to get right into town
 
There is no way there is going to be more info for at least a while. Probably a week. The two options are that Gruden turned us down and there won't be any info. He will probably release a statement saying he isn't interested after Butch is fired if that is the case. Or he is interested. In which case you still aren't going to hear anything else until Butch is fired.

If the time line worked like some people in this thread expected to, with all of these hourly updates, Gruden would be well on his way to a second conference title before Butch even sees his pink slip.

If you're anxious I suggest taking a week off of this thread, and assuming there will be no major changes. But you're all grown ass adults so whatever you want to do.
This...all of this.

It's becoming quite obvious nothing much is getting out, and what exists is likely controlled narrative put out by the concerned parties to squash the rumors.
 
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While I am by no means a contract attorney, I am an attorney (and this does not constitute legal advice). That being said, in other types of contracts, that is not necessarily the rule, even though it is the rule (I know that doesn't make sense, but honestly nothing really makes sense in the law). Example, a few years ago, a Tenn. Court of Appeals case, McKinnis v. Hammons, said that even without a written contract in a real estate transaction, the court could look to checks written by the parties and MLS listings showing a property was being sold, and signing of deeds by both parties as evidence that a contract existed, even though no sale contract was ever written. Now, no good real estate agent would ever not have a contract, but private parties who are less knowledgeable do things on the fly all the time. This effectively circumvented the Statute of Frauds in that particular case, and to my knowledge and according to Westlaw, it hasn't been overturned, but it caused quite the "wait a minute" moment in certain circles when it went down.

That being said, and having worked in firm that did employment law, employment contracts are a separate beast all together especially because Tennessee is an at will employment state. If there is no contract, an employer can fire you for whatever reason they want to give, and you can leave for whatever reason you want to (the Cliff's notes version). So if you want to outline specifically the expectations, obligations of the parties, requirements of the parties, and what happens if $h!t goes sideways, you need and want it specified in writing. And generally, verbal employment contract is a no no. Modifying an existing contract verbally is a no no. You always want to have everything written down and detailed and signed off as agreed upon. But there are always exceptions in law so if it can be documented enough that a "mutual understanding" was reached without a contract, it is always possible, however unlikely, that unwritten crap can get introduced and enforced.

And that ladies and gentlemen is the most law I have practiced this morning because of the rabbit hole that is this thread.

*caveat - I see I'm like 10 pages behind already...curse you thread...curse you.

The struggle is REAL.
 
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This...all of this.

It's becoming quite obvious nothing much is getting out, and what exists is likely controlled narrative put out by the concerned parties to squash the rumors.

No doubt they have info locked down as tight as Butch Jones' sphincter come 3:30 Saturday afternoon.
 
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Gruden running the train on the East next year like..
 

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