Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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That was the worst basketball game ive ever seen in my life. I can't believe I paid for a ticket to see that.
 
Didn't say Hart "stopped" the deal. Was only told he...well, apparently he wasn't helpful. And seems he is sort of a stubborn cuss. I have yet to get an explanation as to why things fell apart or Hart did or did not do.

I appreciate that. It seems to be the UT ad is very broke so each new round of small demands might be met with new discussions of spending cuts and or "tax" hikes. That could easily make more sense of this.
 
I am confident in saying this whole ordeal is not over money like what is being reported. The people involved are not use to losing or not getting their way and in no way would they allow defeat over a few hundred thousand dollars like is being suggested by some.

I totally agree. No way this thing got that far down the road without covering basics like staff money. Perhaps someone thinks that's an issue but they could've covered that over coffee 6 weeks ago. Doesn't make any sense
 
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It's that Alabama business model that keeps me wondering if this is really over...it very well may totally die down and arise again in December.

Until either we hire a new coach, or Gruden accepts another position other than throne he's in now...I believe the window is still open.

The narrative in here has been set up for weeks as a show down between Hart and the boosters. Well now we have it.

If deniability of the boosters negotiations have been an ongoing concern then it would be natural to leave Hart out of the loop, though his presser did seem to indicate that he had been clued in somewhat.
 
I totally agree. No way this thing got that far down the road without covering basics like staff money. Perhaps someone thinks that's an issue but they could've covered that over coffee 6 weeks ago. Doesn't make any sense

You think it can be saved?
 
I agree Gman. I'm just not over it yet either.

I just saw on the ESPN ticker during the UT/GU game that Gruden has told UT he is not interested, but there was negotiations the went deep into last week.

Nothing makes sense...

Hey Jake, is it possible that JG and Lamonte kept wanting more money or control issue every time they talked? Or like Basilio said about a month ago that Hart has a huge ego and doesn't like being told what to do by anyone and said boosters be damned I'm hiring who I want? I'm like you, nothing is making much sense.
 
Hold! Hold! Hold! Long time lurker first time poster in this thread. First, the odds are gruden isn't coming. However based off everything that's happened today I don't understand how "grudenites" can jump ship. Perhaps if u have inside info I can see u jumping ship but just based off the media today it's not really worth throwing in the towel. IMO it ain't done yet, one way or the other. I wouldn't be surprised either way. I'm full gruden but this is TENNESSE and we will be back, that u can bank on. Might be when I'm on my death bed but we will be back. Go vols.
 
I'm in. I've always existed in the football forum, but now feel like I can never go back. At least regularly. I've enjoyed this thread immensely.

Yep I was a FF regular. After I finally looked in the mirror and cussed myself out for supporting Dooley, I came here, I think JG II and never looked back. This place has made this board so much more enjoyable for me.
 
You know what I hate the most, the sense of enjoyment the sports media (radio and tv) seem to be getting out of today's news. Like Vol fans are a bunch of idiots
 
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AJeray, Coasty, Goat, Jake, Sam, Doyle, Smokey, Pattiy, Boro, Jay, OV, DTO, Gman, Wilson and any of my orange bruthas I may be forgetting...this has been a helluva ride and I hope once a coach is hired we will have a thread like this to hang and have fun! I also hope that the next coach turns out to be the F'n man and helps restore my faith in this program and hopefully have us back at the top, sooner rather than later. I also hope that we can all enjoy a day in Knoxville getting to know eachother and drink our asses off and enjoy watching our Vols kick some damn ass! I don't personally know ya, but by God I love ya!! GBFO!!!

Right back at ya',VM14..

Now, you know what to do..gifmaster.:)
 
AJeray, Coasty, Goat, Jake, Sam, Doyle, Smokey, Pattiy, Boro, Jay, OV, DTO, Gman, Wilson and any of my orange bruthas I may be forgetting...this has been a helluva ride and I hope once a coach is hired we will have a thread like this to hang and have fun! I also hope that the next coach turns out to be the F'n man and helps restore my faith in this program and hopefully have us back at the top, sooner rather than later. I also hope that we can all enjoy a day in Knoxville getting to know eachother and drink our asses off and enjoy watching our Vols kick some damn ass! I don't personally know ya, but by God I love ya!! GBFO!!!

I'm still here. I'm not going anywhere. I love this place...it's my daily injection of Big Orange Football. I need it and I want it. I'm gonna be here regardless of what happens.

And my encouragement and clinging to hope isn't meant to build momentum. I'm just using my business sense as an entrepreneur that keeps telling me not to let it go because these types of deals die multiple times on a regular basis only to come full circle. I don't know that's gonna happen not am I counting on it...and I'm not crazy. It's business. An that's what this is. I'm gonna keep my eyes on it with an open mind!!!
 
Ok guys been getting up and dusting myself off today trying to not throw this phone out the window. But I just have to vent to you guys a bit. Now this is all based on ifs but IF Hart is to blame then we the fans, the communitty, the University and the team have been absolutey cheated. We have supported through years of uncertainty with passion and hope. We finally have a chance to generate some much needed buzz and hope and we couldnt "agree" to terms? Well I dont agree to those terms. Last I checked (and did several times last couple of years) LSU, Bama, and Fl all charge roughly the same for tickets as we do.

Keep in mind I have no facts and dont really know what went down just going with an IF.

Are we getting same level of AD support for our money?
 
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