Official Jon Gruden Thread XIII

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Yeah it's the AD who did this. Like he didn't give a full effort.

Your constant complaining makes us such a great fan base. Everything has to be someone's fault.

Maybe, just maybe Gruden didn't want the job. Maybe he wanted waaaay more than UT, AD, or boosters were willing to give.

Some people really need to think reality and grow a brain.

When I said AD I meant Athletic Department. And when I said embarrassing us I meant for the last few years not just today. But thanks for name calling another vol fan. I appreciate it.
 
Looks like a lot of ya'll owe Hyams an apology. For calling him an idiot and such. Looks like his sources were way better than ya'lls.


I'll tell you what son, if I'm wrong, I will gladly take the ban from this forum. And my question to you is, are you willing to do the same if you're wrong? :dance2:
 
If Jon Gruden played all of us and when I say us I really mean the boosters and and in particular Peyton, I would think he has hurt himself in the profession. If this has truly came down this way, he would have to be looked at as someone that is a little flakey IMO.

Lamonte certainly used harsh enough words to make that breakup permanent

imo
 
Agent denial and statement of 'fantasy' allows Gruden to walk away with a clean image. Hart's comment of 'due dilligence' really shows a lack of effort. Is this really as far as he went? If so, way to show effort. And the fanbase and media is almost to Civil War tensions here. Should be a fun next season in Knoxville.
 
For some reason I still believe there's a small chance, if that whole mid December time table is true.
 
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Hargis on the Animal and state without a doubt that it is the money for assistants. Pretty much blasting UT tradition. Says that tradition can't be sold to kids anymore, says it has to be all about the future.


Also says that there was NEVER a contract.....just negotiations. He says that yeah, maybe UT didn't want to break the bank but hey it's Gruden and Gruden wanted to be the coach therefore we should pay it. The guy wanted Gruden and has NOTHING good to say about UT. Sounds like a pompous A-hole to me. He says that his stuff is 100% accurate and factual.

Riddle me this. How can someone that I haven't even heard of before this week have an absolute 100% sure source and NO ONE ELSE in the country has this?

The only facts that I believe is that we will never know what the true numbers were and that Gruden never wanted to negotiate. He came in with a best and final offer before anything ever got started and UT couldn't get the money. I believe Hart was told that he had X amount of money and Gruden wanted a not insignificant amount more. Guys, when you can't buy the house, you can't buy the house.
 
Granted, it appears Hart really sucks at his job, but the real a-hole here is Mike Hamilton and is largely responsible for ruining UT athletics as a whole.

IMO JMO TIFWIW GDI MFer
 
I'm pretty sad. I've been positive and hopeful about Gruden until now. I just hope it's a guy we can all get behind. And please no Al Golden. GBO. As always, VFL!
 
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