Official Jon Gruden Thread XIII

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He is better than most of the names being thrown out there. Vandy is a developmental institution, not a destination job. This is something that bothered me about the Dooley lovers as well when they would try to make him a bleeding orange direct descendant of Davy Crockett. On a separate note your kick to the marbles post is exactly how I feel. Hilarious.

The things that bother me about Franklin are twofold: He hasn't beaten a team with a winning record (that might sound familiar), and I think he would turn us down publicly if he got the opportunity. I don't want to deal with the humiliation. It's already embarrassing enough with the rival fans piling on us about the latest news that Gruden isn't coming.
 
The James Franklin madness is starting to spread. God, please no. I will never watch another UT game if this happens.

Why? Apparently u aren't as desperate for wins as some of us.. He would win big here.. Just have to get used to his personality.
 
As in, they r giving up.. Bcarter just gave his top 5 list with no Gruden on it.

Little bit**.

All I did was keep it real this whole time, sharing info, and my opinion as to what that info has meant to me. Yes, I am of the opinion Gruden is not coming but other than a few *******s that like to make their ****ty lives with fat ugly wives seem better by "being right", I have been here and open to discuss anything.

Then again there are those that take pride in making others feel bad, so they can feel better about being miserable. I think you are one of those people.
 
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If #4 is true, then #5 is NOT true. Bad logic bud. Calling bs here. Sounds like you need to get your facts straight. Nice try.

God almighty, I was a having a conversation with another poster about POSSIBLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS of how this all ends. Good Lord. I have stated multiple times I have no info. Just discussing possible outcomes. I know it's hard to follow this thread, but try before being a dbag.
 
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Not gonna leave Jon Gruden as my avatar when I am off the "believer" wagon.

Franklin has done things in a similar academic situation and a fraction of the budget. He would be a HUGE upgrade over Dooley. He is going to win 9 games this year at Vandy. I prefer him to Strong or Fedora.

Carter..... Are you off the Gruden train???

Say it isn't so!
 
What happened to the Vols I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this.*
 
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I would like to believe you, but if we had him, why wouldn't we just announce it or say nothing? I just don't see the purpose behind a smokescreen.

Not sure. Could be ESPN contractual probs or really wanting to get his last check from Bucs or gosh. Who knows. But. If Espn is reporting it's done then this is some thick thick smoke that wil hang for awhile as give them time for whatever reason
 
This is crazy, we are ina society for instant gratification and when info becomes scarce we squirm (I do this too). The media is the worst at this, they want a story now, and when they can't have it they get pissy and pessimistic and start speculating. We have to be able to decipher this info, but it is impossible. Hart is letting people think what they want and throwing some bones (wisely placed) hear and there. Hang on because this could get even worse before it gets better.
 
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1. Chill out
2. We are still getting him from what I was just told
3. Stoops isn't stepping down today. He has a game tomorrow.
4. Anything coming out of Knoxville is smokescreen. Do not listen to anything Hubbs or Hyams says regarding Gruden.
5. Still thinking this finally goes down next week.

Now THAT is some specific information, my friend. Right or wrong, you're sticking your neck out there with some information.

I hope you're right.
 
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