Official Jon Gruden Thread XII

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VolCrash33 said:
Since everyone seems to be in this thread ill ask here. I'm fairly new to vn so was anyone accurate with their "sources" when it came to hiring kiffin or Dooley??
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Everyone (except Jimmy Hyams) knew it was Kiffin. Nobody knew who the hell Dooley was.
 
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Smokeyshowl66 said:
So preoccupied with this site that someone just slashed all of my inflatable Christmas decorations in my front yard and I didn't even hear them. Think I need to start paying attention to the real world again.
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So someone did your neighborhood a favor?:)
 
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Smokeyshowl66 said:
So preoccupied with this site that someone just slashed all of my inflatable Christmas decorations in my front yard and I didn't even hear them. Think I need to start paying attention to the real world again.
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Just poke your head outside and yell "Get off my damn lawn you lousy punks". That should scare them
 
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yrock777 said:
Just now on VQ

Legitimate Gruden Info, w/ Sources Reply
For starters, because I know many of you will look at my history, look up the name bustedplaycom. I was a member for a little over three years, cancelled my membership, and have since come back (just a few months now). I've never once claimed to have any "inside information" or even a clue of what's going on within UT or any of its coaching searches. Having said that, I have a friend out in Los Angeles (who graduated from UT with me) that works for Landmark Sports Agency, and used to work at PSR, where Bob Lamonte is President and Founder. I've been nagging him for the last 5-7 days for any info, but he hasn't had any. Today he called me, and this is what he had to say:

UT has done everything on its end to try and make Gruden their next coach. He doesn't know the exact details, but he said (from what he's heard) that UT has reached out to Gruden and has offered him an 8 year, $58m deal.They offered him $4.2m for a staff, and he came back wanting more; they counted with $4.9m for a staff, and this number, according to him, is still a bit of an issue, and is yet to be resolved.

Gruden is very worried about NCAA rules, recruiting, and violations -- that sounds like a very little thing on the surface, but it's apparently one of the major things that's keeping him from pulling the trigger to coach college ball. In the NFL, all the guy has to do is worry about a draft (which is mostly up to the GM); in the NCAA, he has to worry about what types of spreads can be given for bagels at a breakfast event.

Bob Lamonte, according to my friend, is addicted to getting his clients power -- he said if anyone questions this, please Google Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, Mike Sherman, and our very own Jon Gruden.

Jon Gruden's wife is HUGE in this -- supposedly, and I quote, "she's much more of a driving force than you'd ever imagine in making a decision that decides the next 8 years of their life." I will tell you my friend was a bit of a drama queen at UT -- I lived w/ the guy, and he has a knack for dramatics -- but he said this deal wouldn't even be close without her.

There is an ownership at stake for this with the Cleveland Browns. I don't know the numbers, and I actually mocked the OP who put this out there, but it's time for me to apologize for that. I thought it was completely absurd, but from what he's told me, it's 100% legitimate. He suspects it's a very small number, but any ownership stake in an NFL team to coach a college team would certainly be a first.

On the cancellation: My friend has no inside scoop on that. I asked him to text me if he heard anything, but at the time we spoke (a little over two hours ago), he didn't have any information.

His overall thoughts: He, unlike myself, doesn't think the deal is dead in the water. He said what separates the two sides is a few million dollars (over the course of 8 years, not PER year) and a legitimate control issue over football operations (per him, Gruden wants ALL power when it comes to football decisions, as far as who's brought on, who's fired, etc., and there's a different side of opinions between the two parties). The money for Gruden is where he wants it, but there still seems to be a gap in the money he wants for assistants -- this is big to Gruden, being new to the college game, and he wants to make sure he has the best staff in place, from both a coordinating and recruiting standpoint.

That's what I know. You can call me a troll, much like I have everyone else. I didn't trust anyone because I have a friend in the industry who has very close connections, and he himself hadn't heard anything. I'm not claiming it's a done deal, not claiming there's any ink to dry, not saying it's dead, not saying it's close. Just telling you about a conversation I had with an old roommate.

If I hear anything else, I'll be sure to post.
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The UTAD needs to start a grassroots fundraising drive to finance this if need be
 
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Reminded me of Wil Ferrell on SNL when he was the morning show host. The tele- prompters failed for 30 seconds. He lost it and ate his co host.
 
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Smokeyshowl66 said:
So preoccupied with this site that someone just slashed all of my inflatable Christmas decorations in my front yard and I didn't even hear them. Think I need to start paying attention to the real world again.
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If you catch them tell them I said nice work!
 
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Insunseri said:
You had dropped some endocrine system stuff in one of your posts and figured you might be a fellow biochem major
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Am an I.T. Pharmacist (forgot more biochem than I ever knew). Interesting career change though from Hospitals/Meds to Info Technology.
 
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Some people are really sold on Patterson. Personally, I am not.

I went back and gave his schedule a cursory review. While he has an incredible amount of wins, his competition at TCU has been subpar historically (like Big East sub par IMO).

Going back to 2002, he has only played 15 ranked teams. 5 of those teams were this year. This year, he is 2-2 going into the 5th against Oklahoma. Yes, Patterson has won 10 of those and lost 5 overall, but the majority of those wins have come against BYU, Utah and Boise State. I know those aren't awful teams, but geeze that is not SEC quality competition. It should also be noted that TCU has lost to the likes of Wyoming, a loss that people have crucified Fulmer for.

For comparison, UT has played 13 ranked teams in the past 3. Granted, we are 0-13 during that time. The bottom line, I don't trust his record as outstanding as it is. I think it significantly over inflates his value. I don't see his win/loss totals remaining so stellar now that he is an a conference that actually plays some football. I certainly don't predict him being a savior type at UT.
 
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